Talk:The Fungies!

Final Season?

CreecregofLife Pardon the typo. The guideline is WP:TVPRESENT. The source about season 3 ([1]) does not mention that it is the final season. Do you have a reliable source that says that season 3 is indeed the final one? EvergreenFir (talk)

Yes, but it was removed and I was threatened with a block for keeping it in place--CreecregofLife (talk) 00:15, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

@CreecregofLife: Looking though the article history, it seems you were citing a tweet. Do you know of any other news-like sources? EvergreenFir (talk) 00:45, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Nobody they’d consider "reliable" picked it up, but considering exactly what happened to season two happened (split a 40 and released as two 20s with the second 20 released as "3") it’s astounding the tweet isn’t considered reliable enough just because Twitter doesn’t recognize him--CreecregofLife (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

As has been explained before, we don't just go around citing random Twitter/social media accounts, even if it's assumed to be associated with the person in question. There's a reason there's 'verification' on the social media sites.

Aside from that tweet, there doesn't appear to be anything else confirming the show's cancellation (upon doing a quick Google search). One of the only other sites with a finale date listed is Cartoon Network Wiki, which is even moreso unreliable. Magitroopa (talk) 03:40, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

This is why you investigate and research instead of dismissing accounts as "random" and leaving it up to a backlogged verification process to make your decision for you--CreecregofLife (talk) 03:45, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Same exact scenario has gone on with other shows on Wikipedia, and this is no different. Verified social media accounts are reliable. At this point, it seems like you're trying to rush this. If there is a reliable source, it can be used and the end/finale date can be added. If not and there's been nothing for a year (December 16, 2022), then at that point, we can assume it's cancelled (and the series end date can be removed once more if there is news about the show coming back at a later point).

This is literally within the infobox instructions as well: "Only insert the last episode's date after it has happened. In some cases the fate of a program might be uncertain, for example if there are no announcements that a show has been renewed. If such a program has not aired a new episode in 12 months, "present" can be changed to the date the last episode aired, using {{End date}}. This does not imply the series has been cancelled, rather that the program "last aired" on that date. This is to prevent programs from being listed as "present" in perpetuity. In the event that a program resumes airing after a long hiatus, such as more than 12 months between episodes or cancellation and subsequent renewal, the date is simply replaced with "present" to reflect the "current" status of the program." Magitroopa (talk) 03:53, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm not rushing anything, I'm going by reliable sources and common sense. The year wait is meaningless in this instance. Same exact scenario with other shows, huh? Was common sense ignored there too? Was it with every instance? Even 10 months from now, a "reliable" source may still not have picked up on it, and then what? Would I get a concession?--CreecregofLife (talk) 04:11, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

You're ignoring the other part of what I've previously said: even if the creator's supposed social media account was verified, he does not control the fate of the show. The network controls the series' fate. Magitroopa (talk) 04:18, 11 February 2022

Which is entirely irrelevant. He described the show's fate as it currently stands. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball that can tell the future. We do not run on mights. We run on facts. Stating that it is the supposed creator's account also runs against this and is therefore not an admissible descriptor--CreecregofLife (talk) 04:25, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

If Stephen P. Neary is an actual "showrunner" on the show – and I don't know if he is: he's listed as an EP, which means he might be, but he might not be – then as a showrunner, he is considered an acceptable/reliable source for the series' cancellation. The main issue here is that his social media account is unverified. That pushes it into WP:NOTRS territory, unless you can find other sourcing (e.g. Deadline) that confirms that really is his account... In the absence of that, WP:NOHURRY applies, and if this is true, a WP:RS like Deadline will likely be confirming the cancellation in the next few days. So I would say it probably should just stay out until that happens. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:09, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

The skepticism here is far too arbitrary, placing too many hurdles not covered within policy. We already did all the work, but you make more of it, while assuming that a specific source you do deem reliable is going to pick it up within the next few days, with no actual guarantee. Reliable sources doesn’t mean they’re the only crutch allowed. Policy isn’t making this more difficult, it’s personal bias. --CreecregofLife (talk) 07:08, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

At this point, it seems you either don't understand or don't care to understand the difference between reliable and unreliable sources on Wikipedia, and you would rather edit war to what you think is correct. I highly suggest you stop, you've already had multiple users here saying that an unverified Twitter is WP:NOTRS, and you refuse to listen. I suggest you take a break and learn the policies rather than decide what you believe is right. Magitroopa (talk) 07:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Unreliable doesn’t mean unusable. You think I’m edit warring. Doesn’t mean I am. I suggest you take a break and learn the policies (especially Disruptive editing) rather than decide what you believe is right. Especially when you think you’re above receiving Edit warring notices and don’t believe they apply to you.--CreecregofLife (talk) 07:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

You're mistaken, on the English Wikipedia, unreliable means unusable. You're free to edit another project like Fandom which does not have a reliable sources policy but if you're not willing to accept our requirement to cite reliable sources when adding details, then Wikipedia might not be the place for you. Edit: I forgot to mention but to address this point 'Even 10 months from now, a "reliable" source may still not have picked up on it, and then what? Would I get a concession?', if reliable sources never pick up that a show has been cancelled, then we cannot say it has been cancelled either. I assume we have some standard way of dealing with shows which have never been reported as cancelled but for which no episodes have aired for a long time, guided by reliable sources. In reality I suspect in the vast majority of cases, some reliable source does report about what we know about the status of any program on a semi major US network. Nil Einne (talk) 07:52, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Nil Einne: FYI, that scenario is explained within the bold here. Magitroopa (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

The entire series was removed from HBO Max in August 2022. If that's not an indicator that the show is over then I don't what is. 162.40.175.82 (talk) 00:46, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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