Talk:The Headhunters

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"This album would become the biggest selling jazz album of all time." from the first body paragraph should someone check this? im sure the best selling album was Kind of Blue

That claim came from the sleeve notes of the Columbia reissue CD. Happy to be corrected if it's wrong, though - now you mention it I would have thought Kind of Blue has to have a pretty good chance at the #1 spot... I'll go see if I can find out. Stevekeiretsu 16:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I found a little more info ( http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?&t=1305&page=2&pp=15 )

In checking the RIAA, it seems that Hancock's "Headhunters" went platinum back in the '80s and Miles' "Kind Of Blue" didn't reach that plateau until 1994. It's since tripled that total!! I guess KOB is hotter than ever. Too bad Miles wasn't alive to see it jump over "Headhunters". Rumor is that Miles was mega-peeved that Herbie's record sold more than his.

So, Headhunters was once a bigger seller than Kind of Blue, but not any more. I have clarified the article accordingly. Stevekeiretsu 15:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What band this is

I think that Headhunters is not a backing band of Hancock. It is the band that plays on The Headhunters albums such as Survival of the Fittest. Musicians on Hancock records such as Man-Child and Secrets are very varying and they don't form any band. We could say that Headhunters played on Thrust and Headhunters albums but I think this is also a bit confusing. I would limit the usage of The Headhunters name for those albums that are explicitely published under that name. --128.214.205.4 11:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken and I can't really argue you are technically correct, but I don't see the logic in emasculating the article of everything except the albums released under their name. Considering the band formed and took their name from the Hancock LP, and that people widely refer to Herbie's "Headhunters era", "albums with the Headhunters band" and so forth, I think the content of the article is quite acceptable. See for example that AMG lists "The Headhunters: Group" in the credits for Man-Child and, conversely, includes all the Hancock albums under its bio for the The Headhunters.

You're right that the line-up varied between across the Hancock LPs but the article does clearly say the precise line-up varied from album to album. Besides, the line-up varied between Headhunters and Thrust as well -- indeed, it changed between their non-Hancock albums too -- so if your criteria for them as a band is a 100% static lineup then there is no such band at all... Stevekeiretsu 21:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Headhunters and Thrust could be seen as a Headhunters albums but Man-Child and Secrets cannot. Those two albums mentioned feature a bunch of musicians who do not form any coherent unit while between Thrust and Survival of the Fittest there is a clear continuum. AMG is not very important judge, they classify things very oddly sometimes. If sleeves do not say anything about Headhunters, then why we would attritube those records for Headhunters. We could say that Headhunters is a band that consists mostly of the same musicians that played on Hancock's Headhunters and Thrust albums and that they took their name from Headhunters album. That would be accurate. Without doubt those albums that are released under Headhunters name are Headhunters albums and then also Headhunters and Thrust can be mentioned though they are released under Hancock's name. --80.221.30.226 16:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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