Talk:The Lodge (TV series)

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Text and/or other creative content from this version of The Lodge was copied or moved into List of The Lodge episodes with this edit on December 17, 2017. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

"Season" vs. "Series"

So, for British shows we usually use "series" instead of "season", but it seems they mostly use the term "season" for this show (examples: [1] [2] [3]). Which one should we use for this article? nyuszika7h (talk) 08:25, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COMMONNAME might apply here. It doesn't have to do with character names, but I feel like the same logic may apply. Inviting Geraldo Perez, IJBall, and MPFitz1968. Amaury (talk | contribs) 14:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unless someone makes a serious fuss about this going against the infobox instructions, which it does, we should leave things as documented by the show's production and marketing. Obviously Disney in the UK, as a subsidiary of a global company, which is also broadcasting this show in the U.S. is using U.S. terminology to match the rest of Disney's overall usage. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:06, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nyuszika7H: It's an WP:ENGVAR issue. The thing is, though, this article was first written back in September 2016 using the word "season". You then added the {{Use British English}} tag yourself in Oct. 2016. As this article was not originally written in "British English", and it aired internationally (and was seemingly produced with an international market in mind), I actually feel pretty strongly that the {{Use British English}} tag should be removed (i.e. I don't think there should be any preferential "English" tag at all) – generally, the ENGVAR chosen when the article is written is the one that should be kept unless consensus is established to change it. And, based on all of this, I think it should remain "season", as that was the word used when the article was originally written. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:16, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: You're right, I've removed the tag. Another relevant thing I just remembered: on the official soundtrack, there's a song titled "Favorite Place to Be". Yes, "Favorite", not "Favourite". [4] [5] – nyuszika7h (talk) 15:22, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On the broader issue of ENGVAR, in some cases, it definitely makes sense to invoke "ties" and tie the type of English to a particular country – e.g. for those shows that air either exclusively in Britain, or which barely air outside of Britain, it definitely makes sense to invoke {{Use British English}}. But like I said above – in the particular case of this show, which was made with an "international" market in mind, it probably doesn't make sense to "restrict" the article to a particular English "type" – in this article, it's probably fine if it's a "mix" of British and North American English. "No big deal", and all that... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:28, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: I was gonna say, "Does that mean we can use American date format?"

But then I saw, "in this article, it's probably fine if it's a "mix" of British and North American English."

. Amaury (talk | contribs) 15:36, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It aired in the UK first, so using 'dmy dates' probably makes the most sense here. (However, if it had premiered in the U.S. first, a good case could have been made for using 'mdy dates' even though it's a "British" production...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:38, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Amaury: @IJBall: @Geraldo Perez: Hate to open up a two year old discussion, but only just seen this, I'd like to propose that the article is edited to include dmy dates, and British English. I agree that The Lodge is made for an international audience, but the production is British and to not follow the rules for this one exception feels weird to me. – DarkGlow (talk) 20:51, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Prod. codes

I suggest that we kill the Production Codes columns in the episodes list tables – many of the prod. codes are unavailable, and what ones are available strongly imply that the episodes were aired in production order anyway. Thus, including prod. codes is redundant information, and eliminating that column will free up real estate in the episodes list tables where it is badly needed. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:27, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: Yeah, I'd be fine with that. Episode order is clearly important for this show, and every episode having a "Previously" and a "Next time" just further proves it. nyuszika7h (talk) 10:46, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What about this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264272/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.191.183.173 (talk) 05:24, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Musical" as a genre

It seems pretty clear that this TV series was basically a "musical", and it seems right to call it such. The BBC reference directly refers to as a "musical drama" in the article title. A couple of the other sources used here either say "music" is an important element of the show, or describe the show as "music-filled". Based on all of that, calling it a "musical" TV series seems both appropriate and accurate, and I think including it in Category:Musical television series seems both correct and WP:DEFINING. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]