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Date	Process	Result
June 19, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed

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Overcome album booklet

Does anyone have it so they can tell me what the credits and personnel are for this song please? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 12:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination

GA Review

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Reviewer: Rp0211 (talk · contribs) 23:03, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose):
b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references):
b (citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects):
b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Infobox

I can't find information in the article to verify that the song was recorded from 2009–10
Two different versions were released as such, one from each year. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Lead

Burke stated that the song was written when her Aunt told the singer about how her... → "Aunt" does not need to be capitalized
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}
In response, Burke asked her Aunt why he was letting the silence in their relationship... → "Aunt" does not need to be capitalized
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}
"The Silence" is an R&B influenced power ballad; instrumentation consists of a piano, a guitar and drums. → Get rid of semicolon and combine into one sentence
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}
The singer has performed the song on The Paul O'Grady Show and The X Factor; it was included on the set list of her All Night Long Tour (2011). → Make two different sentences
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Background and release

No issues

Composition and lyrics

"The Silence" is a power ballad,[6] which lasts for a duration of 3:35 (3 minutes, 35 seconds).[7] → Not necessary to have brackets for the duration of the song
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}
It draws influence from the music genre of R&B.[8] Instrumentation consists of a piano, a guitar and drums.[8][9] → Combine into two sentences
It is two sentences already. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Not done My bad; I ment to say combine into one sentence. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}

The songs begins with the lyrics "Ohhhhhhhh, you lift me up."[8] → Not necessary in this context
It's a Composition and lyrics section, it's acceptable to put the opening lyric in. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Not done It is acceptable to put it in. But, in this instance, it just seems sort of random to put the lyrics in without any explanation of what they mean or how it sets the tone for the song, etc. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

I don't think it's random to include lyrics when it's a Composition and lyrics section. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 21:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Consider putting in an audio sample of the song that fits accordingly to WP:SAMPLE
I will ask someone to do it. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Response

...and leaped to number 16 the following week after live performance on The X Factor.[13] → Source does not specify "X Factor" performance
Removed. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

General comment: In regards to chart performance, specify what it debuted at and what it peaked at, and not what it was the following week after it debuted
It's a small section, so a bit of information about its charting is fine. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done I understand. I was mainly looking to make sure that you have all the information about where it debuted and peaked at on each chart, which is now addressed. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

General prose of chart performance subsection needs to be proofread and edited
I've gone through it. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Music video

A screenshot of the music video would add further depth to this section
I've posted a note on the talk page as I don't know how to upload one. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Live performances

Burke performed the song on the semi final of the seventh series of The X Factor on 5 December 2010.[25] → No wiki-link necessary for "the semi final of the seventh series"
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}
The song was included on the set list of Burke's All Night Long Tour (2011).[26] → Add "also" between "was" and "included"
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Formats

Rename section to "Track listing"
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Charts

Use a chart template such as Template:Singlechart for this section
Doesn't have to be changed. There is no rule that says that template should be used instead. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done This is more of a way to clean things up, but you are right. There is no specific rule for this. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Combine all different charts into one that goes from 2009 to 2011
Different yearly peaks are actually supposed to be put into separate tables now. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

References

Reference 4 → Needs the link to the actual video, or else the source is unreliable
Cite interview template is designed for when a video, such as from Youtube, cannot be placed in the link as Youtube is not the copyright holder, however the interview is actually on Youtube, therefore this is a reliable source. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done My apologies; I wasn't aware of that new template for interviews. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Reference 6 → "BBC Music" should not be italicized
Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}
Reference 7 → "iTunes Store (Great Britain)" should not be italicized
Ooops! Done Aaron • ^{You Da One}
Reference 8 → Provide external link to website to verify source
It was reached as a consensus that the Musicnotes URL should not be included in the template, hence why it isn't there. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done Noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

Reference 10 → Needs the link to the actual video, or else the source is unreliable
Same as reference 4 explanation. Aaron • ^{You Da One}

Done Dually noted. Rp0211 ^(talk2me)

After thoroughly reviewing this article, I have decided to put this article on hold. There are some prose issues and citation remarks that were noted above in my review. I will give you the general seven days to fix these mistakes and/or question the ones you believe do not concern good article status or that you can find a better solution for. If all of these mistakes are fixed within the next seven days, I will pass the article. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 00:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are now only two issues that need to be resolved before this article can reach good article status. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 16:49, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The lyrics and? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 16:53, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You need to address the issue about the context of the opening line lyrics and how they are important to this article. Then, combine the two sentences listed above into one to make the prose flow better. Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 17:14, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since all of the issues have been addressed, I feel confident putting this article into good article status. Congratulations and keep up the good work! Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 22:24, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :) Aaron • ^{You Da One} 23:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Screenshot

Does anyone know how to upload one please? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 13:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional single or actual single?

It's noted here as a "promotional" single, but what made it promotional and not a full single? Was it not the sixth and final single from the album? Tobyjamesaus (talk) 09:28, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]