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Apologestic piece[edit]

An obvious apologetic piece. Finding neutral sources on Paul Ingram is difficult. ⟳ausa کui ^× 00:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see the issue (so I've not removed the NPOV tag). While I personally believe that Ingram was falsely accused, I've strived to keep my contributions NPOV. I hope future editors can catch anything I've missed.

But the problem is that the main evidence against Ingram were his MANY confessions and his guilty plea, which are mentioned in the stub.

And while you are right about finding neutral sources on Ingram, we put the entire Audio Pardon Hearing (including sheriff Gary Edwards and deputy prosecutor Gary Tabor who both testified against Ingram) online. And this is linked in the external links here.

But merely placing someone in the category of Wrongfully convicted people seems to violate the NPOV. I've suggested some more neutral terms at talk:Wrongfully convicted people, where this issue should be discussed. --DougHill 04:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up[edit]

This article needs some cleanup. The notes section is a little funny and needs to get converted into some useful summary info and references. Let's try to keep all information WP:NPOV, i.e., stick to the facts where they are undisputed. When undisputed, attempt to present both sides. Daniel Santos (talk) 01:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name change[edit]

Why was there no discussion of the name change here? This should have happened before the name was changed. I strongly object to the new name. I did a google search of "Thurston county ritual abuse case" and got NO results! OTOH, "Paul Ingram" returned 42,000, and "abuse Olympia OR ritual OR satanic 'Paul Ingram'" returned 8000. DougHill (talk) 17:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename discussion for all ritual abuse cases[edit]

Editors note generalized discussion affecting all ritual abuse cases, at Talk:Satanic_ritual_abuse#Rename_discussion. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 14:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion now archived in Talk:Satanic_ritual_abuse/Archive_8#Rename_discussion. --88.22.216.153 (talk) 12:40, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Timeframe/dates?[edit]

I can find no clear information in the article as to when this took place, only that Ingram was 'later accused by his son in 1996'. When did the trial take place? Over what period of time was Ingram seen by therapists? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.224.66 (talk) 07:16, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]