Talk:Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war (7 May 2024 – present)

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Little mistake in 17 May that should be corrected by changing 'an new Israeli offensive' into 'a new Israeli offensive' — Yours truly, ⚑ AtikaAtikawa 05:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Charliehdb (talk) 10:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Death toll to 34,789[edit]

Those "death tolls" of unbelievable high numbers come from Hamas. There should be an "according to themselves" at the end of the sentence, not treated as an actual proved number.

EDIT: Can we normaliza that AlJazeera is not a credible news source and is subject to extreme bias. In the same way that Jerusalem Post, Arutz Sheva are not credible sources either.

bare URL[edit]

Am i the only one who finds the bare URL issues annoying? I’m lazy to change it though 48JCL (talk) 14:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blame Durranistan (talk · contribs) for most of that. A lot of their edits are also grammatically challenged and may be copyvios from news articles. Borgenland (talk) 15:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hezbollah Attacks Not Mentioned[edit]

Why are there no mentions of the Hezbollah attacks on israel, or any reports of missiles fired from gaza to israel? There is a alot ofreporting on it. Including: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpdd8z0zjdzo MoisesM12 (talk) 00:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hezbollah events are mentioned in Timeline of the Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) Chomik! (talk?) 01:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vague statement 12 June - (UN on war crimes and crimes against humanity)[edit]

Hello!

Right now, on 12 June we can read (The guardian is the source):

"The UN accused both Israel and Hamas of committing crimes against humanity and war crimes in two parallel reports on the matter."

I checked the The Guardian article, as also this one from AP,

https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-human-rights-navi-pillay-israel-palestinians-a80c38e1aa2c2090da098f7df20e97fe

As I understood, there are two accusations:

Hamas is accused of war crimes.

Israel is accused of war crimes AND crimes agains humanity.

Right now, the statement is ambiguous, it seems that Hamas is also accused of crimes against humanity (but none of the articles states so). Actually I cannot find the original report on the Internet, but that would be the correct way to do things. 93.34.8.202 (talk) 08:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV Tag[edit]

I have added an NPOV tag to the article, due to several sections/days only being sourced by Al Jazeera. Per WP:RSP (WP:ALJAZEERA), "Al Jazeera is a Qatari state-owned news organization considered generally reliable. Editors perceive Al Jazeera English (and Aljazeera.com) to be more reliable than Al Jazeera's Arabic-language news reporting. Some editors say that Al Jazeera, particularly its Arabic-language media, is a partisan source with respect to the Arab–Israeli conflict. Al Jazeera's news blogs should be handled with the corresponding policy" {Bolding my doing}. That bolded part is why the NPOV tag has been added. Since consensus seems to be (1) they are reliable but (2) partisan, only or largely sourcing Al Jazeera for a section gives the appearance of undue weight. One or two sections would be ok, as they are a reliable source. But several sections/dates are entirely or 75% or more sourced by Al Jazeera. I have only checked June and between June 1-15, I marked 6 sections/dates with the "one source" tag for this reason.

Until most (say about 2 max) sections are not entirely or largely sourced by Al Jazeera (reliable, but partisan per WP:RS/consensus), the NPOV tag should remain. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. We encourage you to be bold in fixing pages that have been tagged for NPOV. Isaidnoway (talk) 13:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Jazeera ?[edit]

It seems the vast majority, or at least a wildly disproportionate amount, of citations from this article are sourced from Al-Jazeera. Al-Jazeera is a Qatari state-owned newspaper, and Qatar is a self-proclaimed state ally of Hamas, no? I understand the newspaper has a good track record of reliability for topics unrelated to Israel-Hamas, but how is it a neutral point of view for this war? Jackvoeller (talk) 16:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackvoeller: — It isn’t, hence why the non-neutral POV tag was added to the article. See the discussion right above this one for more explanation. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 19:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, it is a news site without a newspaper. As for the usage, I think it would be better to raise it at the WP:RS section where this could be more visible. Borgenland (talk) 02:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove {{Onesource}} from the individual sections in "June 2024" and add it to the main section AlexBobCharles (talk) 10:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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AlexBobCharles (talk) 10:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The one source templates were added to the individual sections as explained in the NPOV Tag section above. They should remain as is. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 15:27, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]