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The UNIX Family Tree Graph[edit]

Please review the UNIX Family Tree Graph with an eye on where mobile operating systems fit in, if at all. Specific improvement request: please add Android and any other appropriate mobile operating systems to the UNIX Family Tree Graph.

Comments on the graph would be better directed to the graph's page at File talk:Unix history-simple.svg. There is already a comment there that android (and MeeGo and its derivatives) are adequately represented as Linux, and iOS by OS X. --ssd (talk) 14:07, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Semiprotected edit request: The links to "The UNIX Time-Sharing System" don't work[edit]

Please insert either http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/cacm.html or http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~brewer/cs262/unix.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiechlus (talkcontribs) 09:32, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, got it replaced with an archived version. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 07:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Naming of the references[edit]

Hello, Ylee! Regarding your revert, I tend to disagree with your explanation. Speaking of reusing references later, nobody will search for already named references just to reuse them; only searching the Wiki code by the URL or looking at the rendered "References" section makes sense for that purpose. Furthermore, not naming references that aren't reused later doesn't improve the article, but it improves the Wiki code by reducing clutter. At the same time, my edit you've reverted also fixed the use of |page= vs. |pages=; as we know, the former should be used for single pages, while the latter should specify page ranges or lists. Of course, I'm more than open to discussing this further. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 05:36, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

First, don't assume you that you speak for other editors. I know I am not the only one who makes sure a citation does not already exist in an article before inserting it.
Second, if I (the original editor for the affected cites) ever decide to go back and reuse them, I'd have to reinsert the references.
Third, WP:REFNAME says nothing about avoiding clutter by avoiding naming references when not needed; quite the contrary.
Fourth, pages= is always preferable because (as any perusal of an existing article would show) it automatically prints "p." or "pp." depending on whether a single number or range of numbers is used. Ylee (talk) 05:52, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Well, you also assume to be speaking on other editors' behalf when saying that it "inhibits later reuse" of references. So what if you need to name a reference later? Is your time so precious? :) At the same time, WP:REFNAME describes how to use "a source more than once", not how to prepare it for some possible later reuse. Speaking of |page= vs. |pages=, it seems you're again trying to "future proof" it if anyone decides to add more pages; if someone is meticulous enough to add more pages, he or she will surely also know the fine details and differences between those two parameters. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 06:05, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

UNICS data inaccurate[edit]

The data on the origin of UNICS is inaccurate, unless you regard Brian Kernighan a liar, as he told a conference that it was a quip he made on the first maiden voyage of the system when Ritchie's login from a user console failed. (The system at that time was written in B.) All attempts to assign other credit to this acronym fail and are not better than sophomoric. Brian's still around - ask him. For the jibe was taken by ken and dmr as a friendly challenge: ken asked dmr to make B a compilable language (which he did). How Peter's supposed to factor into this pseudo-history is a mystery, but he's never mentioned in those early years at Bell and bwk never mentions him at all. So it's apocryphal.