Talk:Usage share of operating systems

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TRON[edit]

tablet bias[edit]

Comp.arch Per your edit summary question, there could be several sources of bias. (All of the following is either my own OR, or based off of StatCounter's FAQ)

  • ipad users could browse more than android users
  • Their stats are based on the websites that host their analytics code. There could be bias in the selection of those sites that favors android
  • all ipads are human use devices, there are embedded or non general purpose android tablets that may not be usable for browsing
  • There are a limited number of ipad models out to track. Easy to know you got them all for identifying tablet traffic. There are hundreds/thousands of android models. If StatCounter's list doesn't contain that model, then it doesn't count as tablet traffic (see http://gs.statcounter.com/faq#tablet-definition last update in 2013. Who knows if its just their FAQ or their real analytic s that are off)
  • Per the phandroid link below, android tablets request the "desktop view" of webpages, so may be skewing the results.

However, broadly speaking the stats are probably accurate. Here are some other measurements from different sources showing similar results

Overall mobile web traffic (not limited to tablet) android has taken the lead though, per almost all sources

Gaijin42 (talk) 18:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

The tablet usage greatly underestimates Windows because it counts only Windows RT. Most Windows tablets sold use the full x86 Windows 8.1 and so are counted as desktop/laptops. Since some of them are used as convertibles Windows devices do not neatly fall into one or the other category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.194.22.18 (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks (both), I missed when this was posted so I'm not sure what "edit summary".. I find: "android tablets request the "desktop view" of webpages" however interesting. Hopefully this article isn't too biased, at least on my account, towards say Android. It is very difficult to get good numbers. Besides web use numbers being biased, that is not all there is (see my latest edit). Are there any numbers on non-web use of smartphones/tablets/PCs? Would that be in minutes? Besides what minutes would you count.. minutes of your smartphone in your pocket or "actual" use.. comp.arch (talk) 09:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Inaccuracy for Dec 2014 numbers from StatCounter[edit]

I just looked through the StatCounter numbers from Dec 2014, which are very important because they drive the graph, and they do not jive up with what I am seeing when I click through to the Refs 4, 5, 8, and 9. The numbers I see are as follows from Ref 8 (click Download Data on page to see CSV):

  • Win7: 33.52%; Win8/8.1: 10.91%; WinVista: 1.94%; WinXP: 8.14%; WP&RT: 0.79%; WinOther: 0.12% (Windows TOTAL: 55.42%)
  • OS X: 5.34%; iOS: 11.91% (Apple TOTAL: 17.25%)
  • Linux: 1.08%; Android: 20.62%; Other Linux (includes Chrome OS, bada, and Samsung): 0.77%: (Linux TOTAL: 22.47%)
  • Other (100%-numbers above): 4.86%

If no one objects, I will update the table and charts on the page. --Nasa-verve (talk) 16:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Bada is NOT based on Linux Kernel, it is based on Open Source forks of BSD, just like Mac OS X and iOS. So, should we be adding Bada under Linux Kernel ?
Also, as Symbian is not based on Linux anymore, should we make the "Linux - other" category into "Samsung devices" ? The Statistic 'Samsung' is probably Android, as this stat started right after the launch of the original Galaxy phone. So should we merge 'Samsung' with 'Android' ? --Ne0 (talk) 10:53, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Windows Tablet Issues[edit]

Since Microsoft has tried to make their X86/AMD64 tablets as close to desktop systems as possible, I am wondering if this might cause some confusion in the count. Unfortunately I don't have a decent source for this, so I'm just dropping it here hoping someone will find a source.

Also there are rumors that Microsoft has had a lot of returns. Again, I don't have a source I can pass you (and since I write tech articles I never edit this page). UrbanTerrorist (talk) 02:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes and no, there is actually a dilemma (for me). I always assumed tablets should be counted with mobile. Then the other day, I saw desktop and tablets counted together, in one source (not used here). Looking now at StatCounter I see Syrian Arab Republic map (hovering over) I see: "48.49% Desktop 48.41% Mobile 3.1% Tablet 0% Console".[1][2] Desktop is only a tiny bit higher than Mobile and the country is blue ("Desktop majority"). I put in quotes as desktop is not majority (>50%) and only higher than Mobile, not higher than Mobile+Tablet.. *I* would have used green..
As most tablets are based on Android (or iOS), so-called "mobile operating systems".. I would have counted tablets with mobile. I think we can still do that (at least in some cases) if we just say what we are counting. I would want a source counting tablets with mobile so we can say some do that and others count with desktop.
Maybe we should just make all three (four) categories explicit with individual counts to make sure people realize what the counts mean. I'll try to not say "mobile majority" unless it (only) is clearly so. comp.arch (talk) 11:31, 28 April 2015 (UTC)