Talk:Vanara
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Vinar correlation
[edit]I belief that the correlation to similar groups of deities in related belief systems should be added to this article, as with the Asura article, which mentions the correlation of the Ahura and Aesir of the Persians and Germans. Within the Germanic pantheon the Vinar are a similar Forest People, that the Aesir both traded with and fought with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.123.76 (talk) 08:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Dubious link with Andamans
[edit]I removed the following uncited text, as OR, speculation, and incorrect:
The description of the Vanara in the Ramayana resembles an actual community among the natives of the Andaman Islands called Jarawa, who typically wear only a scarf (Langoti) around their waist and leave a small length of the same cloth thereby resembling a tail.[1]. They are currently to be found in the Andaman Islands, which had been linked to the mainland before the Ice Age.
This linking of (contemporary descriptions of) Jarawa apparel and appearance with Vanara is folkloric at best, someone's personal speculation at worst. And the geological evidence is against there having been a landbridge from the Andamans to the mainland, either in the last glaciation period or indeed at anytime in at least the last couple hundred thousand years. --cjllw ʘ TALK 01:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- In that case, shouldn't the out-link to the Jarawa website be deleted as well? It's pretty random, especially with no mention of them in the article to explain why it's there. -- 97.127.103.170 (talk) 03:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
"are believed now to be extinct"? Since these are, at best, mythical creatures, "extinct" is scarcely appropriate. What credible biologist believes it (for instance)? TREKphiler hit me ♠ 15:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
http://news.discovery.com/human/evolution/half-human-half-ape-ancestor-130411.htm
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Supernatural powers?
[edit]The intro says "They possessed supernatural powers and could change their shapes" and gives a book about Hanuman as the reference. I don't have access to that book, but if all it mentions is about Hanuman having supernatural powers, this sentence should be removed from the article. Hanuman was a devotee of the highest level and had special powers, just like a very ardent human devotee would, but that cannot be taken as evidence that the entire species had supernatural powers.
Never mind, I went to the original source through the translation in reference 2, and it does mention multiple times that the Vaanara are super strong and able to take the form that they wish.
SundaraRaman (talk) 19:20, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
The identity of the Vanaras
[edit]"their exact identity is not clear"? This just shows less knowledge of the indian literature! In Srimad Bhagavatam (Bhagavata Purana) 11.16.29 they are called "Kimpurushas" which are according to Mahahbharata 1.66.8 the offspring of Pulaha, who was according to Vayu Purana 2.6.5 one of the twelf Jayas, the second set of mindborn sons of Brahma. Therefore the Vanaras are gods and their depiction as monkeys is meant symbolically.--80.133.246.17 (talk) 10:41, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Vanara
[edit]I already mentioned that Hanuman was African on a "talk" page, and was banned from posting further comments. the reason for the obscurity of the race of beings is that they were black - and got the derogatory name "monkey". So, there you have it. And no, these are not 'myths' in the sense you understand myth, but stories related orally down from generation to generation, based on fact and history. just have to read between the lines. the key is the Great Flood. (Srimad Bhagavatam will say that if that is acknowledged, you are that closer to understanding truth.) Stjohn1970 (talk) 13:26, 1 December 2022 (UTC)