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Simple table for all 39 S-type carriages[edit]

Can someone help me to fill this in?

Intent is to cover all classes - Unnumbered, AS, BS, ABS, VFS, VFR, VRS, RS, MBS, MRS, SS, BRS, OS, CS, DS, State 5. I'd also like it to be sortable. I have the data in excel form, is there a quick, easy way to convert it?

After the table, if you look at the text in 'edit' mode it looks right, obviously it looks like someone smashed a keyboard with a mallet below...

Original	AS	BS	ABS (1953)	New Deal
01	1	9		BS 209
02	2	2		BS 202
03	3	11		BS 211
04	4			BS 204
05	5	5, 7		BS 207
	6			1BRS, BRS 221
	7			Scrapped 1970
	8			AS 206, BS 206
	9		3	9BRS, BRS 229
	10
	11
	12
	13
	14
	15
	16
06		1
07		2
08		3
09		4
		5
		6
		7
			8
		9
		10
		11
		12
		13
		14
Wimmera
Mitta Mitta
Tanjil
Moorabool

Year Type Original Prime Standard Gauge IDs Other BG IDs New Deal code(s) 1937 S Steel AE 1 AS 01 BS 9 BS 209 1937 S Steel AE 2 AS 02 BS 2 BS 202 1937 S Steel AE 3 AS 03 BS 11 BS 211 1938 S Steel AE 4 AS 04 BS 204 1937 S Steel AE 5 AS 05 BS 5 BS 7 BS 207 1937 S AS 06 BRS 1 BRS 221 1940 S AS 07 Scrapped (BS220?) 1940 S AS 08 AS-->BS 206 1940 S AS 09 ABS 3 AS 9 MBS 3 BRS 9 BRS 229 1948 S AS 10 BS 3 BS 203 1949 S AS 11 BS 1 BS 201 1937 S AS 12 ABS 1 AS 12 BRS 3 BRS 223 1949 S AS 13 ABS 2 BS 15 BS 12 BS 212 1950 S AS 14 BS 205 1952 S AS 15 AS-->BS 210 1937 S AS 16 BRS 2 BRS 222 1940 S Steel BE 6 BS 01 MRS 2 BRS 226 1937 S Steel BE 7 BS 02 MBS 1 BS 13 BS 213 1952 S Steel BE 8 BS 03 MBS 2 BRS 227 1955 S Steel BE 9 BS 04 MRS 1 BRS 225 1940 S BS 05 VAC 2 Sleeper 16 SS 286 --> BS 219 1940 S BS 06 VAC 1 Sleeper 15 SS 285 --> BS 218 1956 S BS 07 BRS 224 1955 S BS 08 BS 208 1955 S BS 09 VFS 4 VFR 2 VFR 215 BS 215 1948 S BS 10 VFS 1 BRS 8 BRS 228 1956 S BS 11 VFS 2 VFS 214 BS 214 1956 S BS 12 VFX 1 VFX 216 BS 216 1956 S BS 13 VFX 2 VFX 217 BS 217 1949 S BS 14 VFS 3 VFR 1 BRS 10 BRS 230 1937 S Steel CE Van CS 1 VHN 1 VHN 241 CS 241 1938 S Steel Bulk Mail DS 1 VHN 2 CS 2 Scrapped (CS242?) 1939 S Mitta Mitta VRS 1 Buffet 3 VRS 231 1939 S Moorabool Buffet 4 RS 234 1937 S Dining Car Murray RS 236 1937 S Parlor Car Norman OS-->RS 237 1937 S Tanjil VRS 3 Buffet 1? RS 233 1938 S Wimmera VRS 2 Buffet 2 VRS 232 1951 S State Car 5 State Car 5

Anothersignalman (talk) 15:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a list of what each of the 40 S cars was converted to/from with dates (where I was able to find them):

Original ID	2nd ID	3rd ID	4th ID	5th ID	6th ID	7th ID	Location
SOP Car 1 14 Nov 1937	AS 1 30 Aug 1939	BS 209 10 Sep 1984	AS 1				SRHC
SOP Car 2 14 Nov 1937	AS 2 30 Aug 1939	BS 2 (2nd) 8 Oct 1982	BS 202 14 Dec 1984	AS 2			SRHC
SOP Car 3 14 Nov 1937	AS 3 30 Aug 1939	BS 211 7 Aug 1983	AS 3				SRHC
SOP Car 4 5 Apr 1938	AS 4 30 Aug 1939	BS 204 5 Nov 1983	AS 4				SRHC
SOP Car 5 14 Nov 1937	AS 5 30 Aug 1939	BS 7 (2nd) 12 Aug 1983	BS 207 c. Apr 1984	AS 5	BS 7 (2nd)		Steamrail
SOP Car 6 14 Nov 1937	BS 1 (1st) 30 Aug 1939	MRS 2 9 July 1977	BRS 226 21 Apr 1984	BS 1 (1st) Feb 1997			SRHC
SOP Car 7 14 Nov 1937	BS 2 (1st) 30 Aug 1939	MBS 1 28 Jan 1966	BS 13 (2nd) Dec 1983	BS 213 22 Dec 1983	BS 2		Steamrail
SOP Car 8 14 Nov 1937	BS 3 (1st) 30 Aug 1939	MBS 2 28 Jan 1966	BRS 227 24 Oct 1983	BS 3 (1st)			SRHC
SOP Car 9 14 Nov 1937	BS 4 30 Aug 1939	MRS 1 9 July 1977	BRS 225 7 Oct 1983	PN Crew Car			PN
Dining Car 17 Nov 1937	Murray (2nd) 11 Jan 1963	RS 236 (Murray) Mar 1985	Dining Car				SRHC
Parlor Car 17 Nov 1937	Lounge Car Apr 1956	Club Car 13 May 1958	Norman (2nd) 6 Apr 1963	OS 237 (Norman) Oct 1985	RS 237 (Norman) July 1994	Parlor Car	SRHC
Steel CE Van 18 Nov 1937	CS 1 30 Aug 1939	VHN 1 16 Mar 1962	VHN 241 16 Feb 1984	Test Car CS 241 Feb 1993	CS 1		SRHC
Steel Bulk Mail 5 Apr 1938	DS 1 30 Aug 1939	CS 2 24 Sep 1956	VHN 2 Mar 1962	Damaged 17 June 1982 Scrapped 21 Sep 1984			——
AS 6 19 Apr 1940	BRS 1 2 Apr 1983	BRS 221 c. July 1985	PN Crew Car				PN
AS 7 21 May 1940	Damaged 24 Oct 1970 Scrapped 11 May 1972						——
AS 8 31 May 1940	AS 206 9 July 1984	BS 206 20 May 1985	AS 8				Steamrail
AS 9 2 Dec 1948	ABS 3 4 Sep 1956	AS 9 10 Oct 1963	MBS 3 1 Oct 1968	BRS 9 25 Oct 1983	BRS 229 c1984	BRS 9 2005	Steamrail
AS 10 2 Dec 1948	BS 3 (2nd) 23 Dec 1984	BS 203 10 Apr 1985	AS 10?				SRHC
AS 11 22 Mar 1949	BS 1 (2nd) 29 June 1982	BS 201 21 Aug 1984	AS 11 Oct 2005				Steamrail
AS 12 29 Mar 1949	ABS 1 21 July 1953	AS 12 19 Oct 1972	BRS 3 21 June 1983	BRS 223 Sep 1985	PN Crew Car		PN
AS 13 20 May 1949	ABS 2 21 July 1953	BS 15 16 Nov 1972	BS 12 (2nd) 21 June 1983	BS 212 May 1985			707 Ops
AS 14 9 May 1950	BS 205 22 Dec 1983						707 Ops
AS 15 4 Dec 1952	AS 210 23 Nov 1984	BS 210 25 Sep 1985	Aurizon Crew Car QBCY 10				Aurizon
AS 16 18 Dec 1952	BRS 2 18 Mar 1983	BRS 222 21 June 1983	PN Crew Car				PN
BS 5 25 June 1940	VAC 2 10 Apr 1962	VR Sleeper 16 23 Feb 1978	SS 286 17 Dec 1984	BS 219 23 Dec 1989			SRHC
BS 6 23 July 1940	VAC 1 2 Apr 1962	VR Sleeper 15 23 Feb 1978	SS 285 4 Apr 1985	BS 218 27 June 1990			SRHC
BS 7 (1st) 3 Sep 1940	BRS 224 25 Nov 1983	Named Williamstown					707 Ops
BS 8 5 Apr 1955	BS 208 20 Dec 1984	Aurizon Crew Car QBCY 8					Aurizon
BS 9 5 July 1955	VFS 4 10 Apr 1962	VFR 2 18 Feb 1964	VFR 215 Dec 1987	BS 215 23 Dec 1990			707 Ops
BS 10 25 Oct 1955	VFS 1 1 Mar 1962	BRS 8 Aug 1983	BRS 228 8 Mar 1984	Mitta Mitta (3rd) Aug 1994			SRHC
BS 11 17 Jan 1956	VFS 2 15 Mar 1962	VFS 214 Sep 1987	BS 214 23 Dec 1990	BS 11			SRHC
BS 12 (1st) 12 Apr 1956	VFX 1 26 Mar 1962	VFX 216 Sep 1986	BS 216 26 Nov 1991				SRHC
BS 13 (1st) 29 June 1956	VFX 2 3 Apr 1962	VFX 217 19 Dec 1986	BS 217 15 Oct 1991				Newport - spare for 707 & SRHC
BS 14 14 Dec 1956	VFS 3 28 Mar 1962	VFR 1 27 Feb 1964	BRS 10 2 Sep 1983	BRS 230 15 Sep 1984	BRS 14		Steamrail
Wimmera (2nd) 19 Dec 1938	VRS 2 15 Mar 1962	VRS 232 22 Apr 1988					?
Mitta Mitta (2nd) Feb 1939	VRS 1 29 Mar 1962	VRS 231 12 Dec 1983	Renamed Mitta Mitta (2nd)				ARHS Museum
Moorabool 1 June 1939	RS 234 (Moorabool) Mar 1989						Steamrail
Tanjil 31 July 1939	VRS 3 15 Apr 1962	VRS 233 Sep 1985					SRHC
Avoca 21 Apr 1927	RS 235 (Avoca) May 1984						SRHC
State Car 5 11 Apr 1951							SRHC

Notes:

Buffet Cars numbers:

Buffet Car 1 - Taggerty - 1937 E buffet car (18 Diners & 18 First class passengers)

Buffet Car 2 - Wimmera (2nd) - 1938 S long buffet cars (31 Diners)

Buffet Car 3 - Mitta Mitta (2nd) - 1938 S long buffet cars (31 Diners)

Buffet Car 4 - Moorabool - 1939 S short buffet cars (19 Diners & 12 First class passengers)

Buffet Car 5 - Tanjil - 1939 S short buffet cars (19 Diners & 12 First class passengers)

Buffet Car 6 - Kiewa (2nd) - 1955 E restaurant cars

Buffet Car 7 - Moyne - 1955 E restaurant cars — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainsofvictoria (talk • contribs) 18:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Avoca originally was a 1927 dining car

Names in brackets are where the name was kept in conjunction with it's new ID

1st/2nd/3rd in brackets are where there was a number or name reused

Trainsofvictoria (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Original SOP carriages[edit]

Original ID	2nd ID	3rd ID	4th ID	5th ID	6th ID	7th ID	Status	Current livery	Location
SOP Car 1	AS 1 30 Aug 1939	BS 209 10 Sep 1984					Stored	V/Line Mk I	SRHC
SOP Car 2	AS 2 30 Aug 1939	BS 2 (2nd) 8 Oct 1982	BS 202 14 Dec 1984				Stored	V/Line Orange	SRHC
SOP Car 3	AS 3 30 Aug 1939	BS 211 7 Aug 1983	AS 3				Operational	VR Blue and gold	SRHC
SOP Car 4	AS 4 30 Aug 1939	BS 204 5 Nov 1983	AS 4				Operational	VR Blue and gold	SRHC
SOP Car 5	AS 5 30 Aug 1939	BS 7 (2nd) 12 Aug 1983	BS 207 c. Apr 1984	AS 5	BS 7 (2nd)		Operational	VR Blue and gold	Steamrail
SOP Car 6	BS 1 (1st) 30 Aug 1939	MRS 2 9 July 1977	BRS 226 21 Apr 1984	BS 1 (1st) Feb 1997			Operational	VR Blue and gold	SRHC
SOP Car 7	BS 2 (1st) 30 Aug 1939	MBS 1 28 Jan 1966	BS 13 (2nd) Dec 1983	BS 213 22 Dec 1983	BS 2 (1st)		Operational	VR Blue and gold	Steamrail
SOP Car 8	BS 3 (1st) 30 Aug 1939	MBS 2 28 Jan 1966	BRS 227 24 Oct 1983	BS 3 (1st)			Operational	VR Blue and gold	SRHC
SOP Car 9	BS 4 30 Aug 1939	MRS 1 9 July 1977	BRS 225 7 Oct 1983	PN Crew Car			Operational	PN Blue and yellow	PN
Dining Car	Murray (2nd) 11 Jan 1963	RS 236 (Murray) Mar 1985	Dining Car				Operational	VR Blue and gold	SRHC
Parlor Car	Lounge Car Apr 1956	Club Car 13 May 1958	Norman (2nd) 6 Apr 1963	OS 237 (Norman) Oct 1985	RS 237 (Norman) July 1994	Parlor Car	Operational	VR Blue and gold	SRHC
Steel CE Van	CS 1 30 Aug 1939	VHN 1 16 Mar 1962	VHN 241 16 Feb 1984	Test Car CS 241 Feb 1993	CS 1		Operational	VR Blue and gold	SRHC
Steel Bulk Mail	DS 1 30 Aug 1939	CS 2 24 Sep 1956	VHN 2 Mar 1962				Damaged 17 June 1982 Scrapped 21 Sep 1984	——	——

Trainsofvictoria (talk) 16:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]