Talk:West Farms, Bronx

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Social Problems

Social Problems is copy and pasted to the Brownsville, Brooklyn section verbatim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.73.174 (talk) 01:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History

The facts in this single sentence may well be true, but it's not expressed in a neutral way, nor is there support for statements that others might challenge: (1) did Robert Moses, as many believe, "ram through" the Cross-Bronx Expressway?, and (2) was this the direct or "inevitable" or principal cause of "White Flight" by Italian Americans? Italian Americans have moved to the suburbs nearly everywhere in the U.S., sometimes prodded by such highway projects and sometimes not (cf. North Beach, San Francisco, California, Federal Hill, Providence, Rhode Island and the North End, Boston, Massachusetts). I'm not saying this analysis is false (someone asserting the contrary would also have to support his or her statements), just that at the moment it's too thin for this encyclopedia. Perhaps one of the External Links has strong arguments, but without at least some footnote, I'm not going to plow through all of them. Shakescene (talk) 23:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Harlem & Westchester Rail Road?

I couldn't find anything about a railroad by this name. Was it the New York & Harlem Railroad? FloridaArmy (talk) 22:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FloridaArmy that's an excellent question. As I've researched various Bronx historical topics, I've discovered that railroad names are a mess. There seem to have been many railroads with similar names, with lots of merging and splitting which only makes it more complicated. I'm not convinced that all of the sources that get used are even correct. It's all kind of frustrating. The bottom line is that I don't really know what the answer to your question is. It's certainly possible, but it's hard to be sure. RoySmith (talk) 23:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Boundaries

The lead starts out listing the boundaries of the neighborhood, which has been tagged for better sourcing for the past 4 years. I submit this is an impossible task. Neighborhood names in NYC are not official. In fact, the NYC website even says "Disclaimer Neighborhood names are not officially designated". https://boundaries.beta.nyc/ lists "Neighborhood Tabulation Areas". It's unclear how those correspond to "neighborhoods". The boundaries for WestFarms - Bronx River don't match what we've got in the lead.

And of course, since the boundaries are a mess, most of the rest of the article is a mess too. We list the community board, zip code, police precinct, etc. If we don't really know the boundaries of the neighborhood, none of those make any sense either. Not to mention statements like "East Tremont Avenue is the primary thoroughfare through West Farms." We list the racial makeup of the neighborhood, but the source talks about the "West Farms-Bronx River" Neighborhood Tabulation Area, as noted above. So, totally different boundaries from what's in the lead.

We list two NYCHA developments in West Farms, which is cited to a web page with the wonderful URL of https://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/html/home/home.shtml, and that no longer exists. We list schools, libraries, and bus lines in the neighborhood, all of which I assume where from somebody looking at a map using the fictional boundaries in the lead.

In short, this is a mess. RoySmith (talk) 19:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]