Talk:Western Avenue station (BNSF Railway)

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Requested move 2 February 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Western Avenue station (BNSF Railway) and Western Avenue station (Milwaukee District). (non-admin closure) — Amakuru (talk) 17:05, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

– Per WP:USSTATION. Geographic disambiguation is preferable to line-based disambiguation wherever possible, especially given that line and service names are more likely to change than cities and neighborhoods. Western Avenue station is already a disambiguation page. Line based alternatives would be Western Avenue station (BNSF Railway) and Western Avenue station (Milwaukee District). Mackensen (talk) 23:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

- In this case, I'd say the line names are more clear than the neighborhood names. The common local names for Chicago neighborhoods aren't always consistent with the official community areas; for instance, the BNSF Line station is in Pilsen according to local usage but the Lower West Side according to the official community areas (the former being a subset of the latter). Line names aren't subject to local interpretation, and can be updated if they officially change. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 02:05, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's a fair point. I've listed line-based alternatives in my opening station. Mackensen (talk) 02:07, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    - Shouldn't those be Western Avenue station (Metra BNSF Railway) and Western Avenue station (Metra Milwaukee District)?
      - I think line's enough; there's not going to be a conflict. Mackensen (talk) 01:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There won't be a conflict, but "Western Avenue station (BNSF Railway)" is a really confusing name for a station that isn't served by the BNSF Railway. (I suppose that's Metra's fault for giving its lines confusing names, but it's still worth considering.) TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 01:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

True, but BNSF owns the line, operates the trains, and I think in this case actually owns the building itself. The lead makes it clear what the station is; the article title doesn't need to tell the whole story. Mackensen (talk) 01:50, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Normally I'd agree with moving the article with the town as the disambiguator, but Western Avenue station (BNSF Railway Line) and Western Avenue station (Milwaukee District Line) is less confusing, especially since many commuter rail riders would more easily recognize which line the station is on. I know from personal experience that they don't care about neighborhoods all that much. epicgenius (talk) 15:54, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the move as currently phrased. However, I support the move of these two articles to other titles. I think that it would be great, in such instances, to have the name of the line in the article titles. epicgenius (talk) 20:05, 4 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support using the lines: Western Avenue station (BNSF Railway) and Western Avenue station (Milwaukee District). This would be the disambiguation recommended by WP:USSTATION. I think the geographical disambiguation of "Lower West Side, Chicago" versus "West Town, Chicago" will be too confusing (and also less WP:CONCISE).--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:12, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.