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Li Li in 13 June 2015 edit

From what I can gather, the individual in question has (at least in the recent past) been a professor at the PLA's National Defence University. I have been unable to discover what her area of expertise is.

She has seems to have appeared on Chinese TV a number of times to comment on matters of Chinese military technology. In those appearances, she has also been asked to comment on hypothetical military systems and scenarios (example), although such comments which would probably not be acceptable for Wikipedia. In the case of the source used in this edit, it does not seem she was answering a hypothetical question.

As the individual source is not a complete no-name and, at least on the surface seems to have some credentials behind her, I have leaned toward inclusion in the prose. On the other hand, given the necessary skepticism that should be attached to specific technical claims coming out of Chinese state media, I have elected not to alter the infobox.

I welcome the thoughts and willingly defer to those who have a deeper and more nuanced understanding of Wikipedia's policies and requirements. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 18:58, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PopSci

The Popular Science article WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE BLOWN UP BY A CHINESE MISSILE? ASK THIS SHIP by Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer (17 October 2014) is a poor source compared to what is available. From what I can find, Lin lacks credentials, Singer is somewhat better but seems to write in general about military technology. One wonders where they are getting their numbers from.

The same numbers are actually given by Li Li, but for reasons stated above it is perhaps best not to put them in the infobox. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 11:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CM-400AKG

The only reputable (?) source I could find that claims the CM-400AKG is related to the YJ-12 is the 2013 StrategyPage article. The same article also claims that the CM-400KG masses 2 tons, although apparently the official mass is a bit less than 1 ton. As no newer (that I could find) seem to repeat either of these claims, I am dubious whether the CM-400KG should be in the YJ-12 article at all. Thoughts? - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 15:34, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There was an article in Janes defense weekly, dated around 2012, that speculated that the CM-400AKG was derived from the SY-400 Weishi Rocket. That never made any sense to me, as how can one derive an anti-ship air-to-surface missile from a surface-to-surface rocket. However, since that was the only credible article on CM-400AKG, so the missile had been added under the Weishi rockets since then. That article has since been deleted. Around 2015, after the Chinese defense parade, where they publicly displayed the YJ-12 for the first time, it has been understood that the CM-400AKG is the export version of YJ-12. YJ-12 is currently the only Mach 5+ air-to-surface anti-ship missile in Chinese inventory, so CM-400AKG could not have been derived from any other missile. I would leave the entry as is because it is only a matter of time before an other credible article is discovered. However it is up to you if you want to remove it. Raza0007 (Talk) 04:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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