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Ken keisel (talk · contribs)

Verifiablilty

Rlandmann please refrain from removing information from this article. To the best of my knowledge you are not a member of the YAF, making this article a bit outside your area. The membership is perfectly capable of policing this site themselves. Much of the information related to private organizations must be listed unreferenced as this is the nature of the matter. While the YAF would love to have multiple publications talking about every move their aircraft make, they must make due with what they have. I can assure you that the YAF is thankful to have the use of the GI facilities. Listing the location of the aircraft gives readers an opportunity to come and see the aircraft, and (hopefully) learn of "polishing days" and other volunteer events that they could help participate in. - Ken keisel (talk) 22:26, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have been repeatedly warned about adding uncited information to Wikipedia. The standard for inclusion here is verifiability, not truth. Your assurance does not count as verifiability, and there is no special exemption extended to private organizations as far as verifiability is concerned. In fact, by their private nature, I'd say that the onus to rely only on material published in reliable sources is greater than ever for these types of organization.

Wikipedia cannot and will not determine who is speaking on behalf of the organization or not.

Please feel free to reinstate the information if you can cite it to one of the Yankee Air Museum's publications or another reliable source. --Rlandmann (talk) 08:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ken: you need to carefully read WP:COI and WP:OWN. This article is open for editting to all editors and the museum does not control its content, nor is this article here to promote the museum and its programs. People involved in the organizaton, particularly in some official capacity, should probably not be editing the article. - Ahunt (talk) 13:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article is open for anyone who wishes to edit it, however I would stress that the people most knowledgeable about any organization are its members. I've never seen anything from Wikipedia indicating that members of organziations should not maintain their articles. All the information contained in this article is factual and up to date, and none of it is presented to excessively "promote" the organization. If you have information that indicates otherwise please present it, but do not join with another editor who was activly stalking me and deleting information just for the sake of being disruptive. It's a pity that the YAF's article has been the victim of this sort of activity. These's no place for that kind of behaviour on Wikipedia. - Ken keisel (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I accept that the statement about aircraft being hangared on Grosse Ile is probably true, but Wikipedia's standard for inclusion is verifiability, not truth. There's no mention of this even on the Yankee Air Museum website. Can you provide a reliable source verifying this? cmadler (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found a comment in the more recent newsletter on their site mentioning it, but I'd prefer something not SPS if we can get it. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

The Lead needs to be re-written. Rewriting Leads isn't my best task, but I'll try to get to it late tonihgt once the other editing has died down. If someone else wants to rewrite it, then I'd be very appriciative. :) - BilCat (talk) 20:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, done. - Ahunt (talk) 20:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it looks good now. - BilCat (talk) 20:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Feel free to improve it further! - Ahunt (talk) 20:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wurtsmith Air Museum "Three Hangars of History"

There is a page indicating Yankee Air Force Museum in Oscoda, Michigan. Then all the information is about Yankee Air Force in Willow Run. Please correct this info.

Wurtsmith Air Museum is located at the Oscoda-Wurtsmith Airport in Oscoda, Michigan. It was established in 1994 after the closure of Wurtsmith Air Force Base in 1993, for the purpose of preserving the history of the base as well as military and aviation history. The museum was associated with Yankee Air Force at Willow Run until 2013, when it became it's own entity: Wurtsmith Air Museum. It is a 501c3 non-profit organization run completely by volunteers.

  The museum is open to the public from mid-May to mid-Sept. Special events

are planned throughout the season. Please check the Wurtsmith Air Museum Facebook page or the main website: www.http://wurtsmithairmuseum.org Phone: 989-739-7555. Jms866 (talk) 15:51, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see where there is any reference to Oscoda in this article. Perhaps you can explain the problem? - Ahunt (talk) 16:04, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]