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don't get me wrong - this band is okay, but you're very confused if you think this is "indie rock". what exactly do you think "indie rock" is? music that cool hipster cats like? can you describe to me what indie rock sounds like? can't put it into words, can you? that's because indie is a status, not a sound. indie rock is the rock part of indie music, it's short for independent, meaning not owned by a major corporation. - you see, interscope, the major label they signed to is owned by a huge conglomerate called vivendi, who also owns this other company called vivendi environment, which indulges in such fascistic corporatocratic practices as privatizing the earth's water supply (starving some, making the poor a lot poorer, and the rich a lot richer). and everytime you buy a yeah yeah yeahs record (or cd) you're making a lot more money for a corporation that does this everyday. with major labels only giving 10-15% of the royalties to the actual artists who make the actual music - how much money do you think they've made for this corporation that kills people? families, mothers, children, whatever, they can't pay for their water... don't believe me? here's the sources
http://www.citizen.org/documents/Gats_Backgrounder.pdf http://blogs.infoshop.org/rebelmouse.php?title=enemiy_s_acting_of_elites_against_people&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/issues/2006/0102/7370927.shtml
i'm not saying this band is bad, i'm just saying they're very confused and naive if they think and say they're indie, cos this is how the major label system works - some are owned by corporations that starve people for profit, some are owned by arms manufacturers, and don't forget if you've bought it at god-forbid wal-mart, then you've bought it from one of the biggest sweatshop abusers in the world. hey! speaking of sweatshops, did you know the yeah yeah yeahs did an advertisement for adidas, who also use sweatshops and child labor? isn't that so PUNK ROCK of them? isn't that so "indie rock" of them? they sure are stickin it to the man... oh, you need a source for that too? here you go, my sweet wonderful darling babies:
that's just capitalism, sorry honey... any real punk would know this (not to be condescending; but what am i supposed to say to a kid who has the circle A pinned to his LEATHER jacket his mummy bought him and doesn't even know who Emma Goldman or Noam Chomsky are?) this is why indie-punk is so important. this is why real indie labels everywhere are so important - to me at least. because they fight this rubbishness.
just because you don't know about any real indie or punk artists cos they're not on mtv or the radio doesn't mean they don't exist. i suggest you stick to words like "garage" or "alternative" that don't have these political connotations. or you could say they're punk-influenced or indie-influenced, or you could say they describe their music as "...", but calling them indie or punk just diverts attention away from genuinely indie-punk bands like Emily's sassy lime, Crass, Fugazi, Bikini Kill, The Mae Shi, Mika Miko, Vaginal Davis, Partyline, Caroliner, Tiny Masters of Today, and Billy Childish, which is wholly irresponsible, misleading, and totally inaccurate. not in a pov way, more in a fundamental violation of the definitions of indie and punk kinda way. but you know you're not gonna do that; you're just gonna try to forget these terrible, terrible things you know they're doing and try to keep pretending they're punk rock126.96.36.199 03:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- I hate music snobbery, what is the point of the above attack on yyy's. In todays music culture Indie doesnt just mean being on an Independant label it is a general term used for alternative, post punk and many other genre of guitar based bands.
- I think yyy's do come under the Garage Rock/ Art Punk and indie/alternative genres as its clear from their sound. Im not an expert on genres but you are looking FAR too much into it. Postmoderner 19:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- you're calling this person a snob for not funding murder by giving all their consumer dollars to a corporation that kills families? nope, indie means "INDEPENDENT", as you can see here: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:2687. sorry, get your own term and leave ours alone so just because they say they're "indie" on their myspace page, that must mean it's true? i don't think you ever answered the question of what exactly do you think indie means, if it doesn't mean independent? arena rock? haha. why do you think people hate corporations so much? just because they're rich? no, i don't have a problem w/ people being rich - it's what they do to get rich, and as that user said, Vivendi Environment is starving children to death in bolivia, and yyy's is making millions of moneys for them, but who cares? bolivian children don't deserve to live right? who cares about them, dying in their mothers' arms, just so you can listen to a cd? not to mention adidas (who, as i'll repeat, use sweatshop and child labor), for whom the yyy's make advertisments. so punk rock... by the way, as an asian-american, i know how hard it is to find positive punky role-models, but please believe me that someone who does this sorta fiddle faddle isn't one of them. if you want positive asian-punk role-models who actually are indie and punk, i suggest you look up Deerhoof, Lolita no. 18, or as the topic-starter said, Emily's sassy lime. or you can go to myspace and look up this band called Comanechi - they're rad. there's even a place now where minority-punks can get together and talk - just follow the yellow-skinned road on the Afro-punk page, visit the official site and join the minority-punk movement in the forum if you wants
- Are you talking to me i didnt say they are Indie beacause it says so on their My Space. I said, which i'll repeat: in the last couple of years Indie especially in the UK has been used to describe "alternative" bands. I agree that in the sense of "Independant" as on an independant label and being against mainstream the yyys are not. Karen O contributed one song to an Adidas add years ago, probably thinking it would raise the band profile, doing it as a favor to a friend, or for the money, I dont know i havent looked into it. I like the band as they are one good Rock band and Karen O is amazing on stage, and for that reason I buy the CDs not to kill kids in poor countries or whatever, sure this shit happens but hey when you buy your coffee, shoes and big TVs there will always be someone way down the line who were only paid buttons for it, not buying CDs from one band wont change that. Im sure the YYYs joined a major label so their music could reach as many people as possible. The Label is not directly responsible for poverty in the 3rd world and i think if it was the case and yyys knew about it they would not continue with the label. removing the term indie in relation to the bands genre will not change the fact they are on a main label.Postmoderner 17:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
- my shoes are charity shop, i don't own a television, and i don't drink coffee mate (and this computer's in a library, if you're a wonderin' about that - sorry, i'm a dirty freegan peace punk squatter)- not to say i don't understand the point you're trying to make, i really do, and i'm not disputing the fact that karen o's amazing onstage, i'm not even disputing the fact that they make good music cos from what i've heard, they rather do. i will however disagree that the label's not really responsible, cos like it or not, they are all part of the same thing: that's sorta like saying if you have a gun to someone's head, and the index finger pulls the trigger and kills someone, then the rest of the body's not really responsible for the actions of that one finger, yknow? all i'm saying is that calling people like this indie confuses the definition and really distracts attention away from genuinely independent artists who really try so hard, for so little recognition, to stand a chance against the corporate ogre and really don't want to contribute to the various evildoings thereof. i'm sure the yyy's are very nice people in real life, and i'm sure they have no idea what the corporation all of their art belongs to is doing - this is not about good people vs bad people - this is about the machine that's gobbling up the whole fucking planet and turning it into a giant Orwellian mcdonald's, and "indie" and "punk" are supposed to denote those who have the bollocks to stand against it and fight it. as nice as they might be as people, they simply don't do that 188.8.131.52 18:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
- "Indie rock" originally referred to artists on independent/DIY/no labels. I suppose it could be considered a genre now. The same way the meaning of "emo" seems to have changed in a few short years if not even become synonymous with "hipster" and "indie". It's a product of the marketing/hype rush to assimilate "street" culture. These words are heard and then thrown around and plastered on things in order to sell them.
- Wikipedia's own article on Indie Rock would refute any claims that this band was indie rock. Also, page 4 of the April 2006 issue of "The indie review" has an an editorial "When Indie is No Longer 'Indie'" that would agree with the topic starter. 184.108.40.206
About the Show Your Bones tracklist
The Show Your Bones entry had "Deja Vu" as the last track on the album. But from what I've seen from AMG and the CD itself, the album seems to end with "Turn Into". I've changed the entry accordingly. 15:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Deja Vu is not the "last track" it is a bonus track. Its not on all versions of the cd. Heres a version with it here. (chubbstar) 19:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
What, if any, affiliation does this band have with the buddy head label. all i know is that they apear on a couple of buddyhead comp albums.
NINANDNIRVANA (who forgot his password:Z)
Why delete band logo?
It states that band logos are acceptable so long as they are tagged accordingly and are uploaded in lower resolution, possibly with minor changes - like i did with the YYY logo. An explanation would be helpful as to why it got deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maps15 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC).
is it "yeah yeah yeahs" or "The yeah yeah yeahs"?
It's "Yeah Yeah Yeahs".I'm 99.8% sure!
I knocked out the most recent four as spam. The interview with Mark Williams seemed to be devoid of YYY content. Following up the Rolling Stone bands to see link gets to their profile which laughingly has the drummer named as Nick Chase. Wwwhatsup 23:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I would argue that Their music is a mix of retro styles with heavy rock/punk guitars, synthetic sounds with rhythmic, melodic and bluesy vocals. is pure POV and Some insist, however, that the name Yeah Yeah Yeahs is a reference to Bikini Kill's LP split with Huggy Bear titled Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah is by definition pure speculation, and contradicts the existing cited source. Thirdly that the YYY's chose to return to their roots by keying their new release around a video shot in an Williamsburg art gallery is notable and is hardly linkspam as there's no link involved. Wwwhatsup 02:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
There was a citation--Rocknoise 02:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- You mean the the Virgin Radio ref? It doesn't say anything about Bikini Kill. Wwwhatsup 04:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, now it becomes clear to me. If you look further down that Virgin Radio page you will read Biography from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It may not have been reviewed by a professional editor, and recent changes may not show up straight away. - In other words you were using an earlier version of the article itself as a reference!! That B.Kill thing had been in there, discussed & killed earlier. I've taken out the reference. Wwwhatsup 04:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I read in Rolling Stone mag. that the name comes from The Beatles "She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah" and not from a "NYC vernacular" I have the mag. in my hands, but I can't find it on the web.
- Issue #? - date? Who says it? Nick has definitely stated that vernacular was the direct inspiration. Wwwhatsup 19:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- All I can say is that the guy has some nerve saying that 'yeah yeah yeah' is 'New York City vernacular', as if people who speak English haven't been saying it all over the world for quite some time. I don't personally think that the origin of the band's name is as fascinating as all that - it's not as amusing a story as the origin of Led Zeppelin's name, for example, or even a story at all. Lexo (talk) 16:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
User:Sugarcubez has twice entered the info that the name derives from the Huggy Bear / Bikini Kill split LP Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah - his source evidently is based on Wikipedia itself, similar to the case noted above. In fact, checking the date in that page one finds it is Feb 2 2007. Checking the Wikipedia entry for that same date indeed reveals the information, itself referenced to a review of Show Your Bones by Mike Newmark of Vassar College where he makes that assertion. It appears to be pure speculation on his part, and in no way can be considered authoritative. Wwwhatsup (talk)Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
The band Dappled Cities' song "Vision Bell" sounds strikingly similar at 1:50 into the song as Yeah Yeah Yeahs' "Turn Into" at 2:16 in. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs song came out first. It is unclear if this was accidental or intentional on Dappled Cities part, and if the similarities are greater than coincidence.
- Of no interest as far as the article goes, either way, unless litigation ensues. Wwwhatsup (talk) 01:54, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Can we get their EP's listed as well somewhere?
- Their EPs are listed in Yeah Yeah Yeahs discography. Band articles usually list only studio albums, if a separate article for discography exists. Quibik (talk) 17:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Should details of individual member soundtrack work be included, it's on the individual articles? That said the mash up of Heads Will Roll w/ Thriller for the 2011 Superbowl edition of Glee might be mentioned.
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