Talk:Zagreus (audio drama)

Categorizing Zagreus

I'm not sure whether Zagreus should be in the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Doctor categories. True, it stars Davison, C. Baker and McCoy as well as McGann (not to mention the Pertwee cameo), but none of them are exactly playing the Doctor. They take on more Doctorish qualities towards the end of the story, but they're still other characters, partly modelled on the TARDIS's memory of past Doctors. I'm inclined to remove the 5/6/7 Doctor categories and templates from the page (and remove Zagreus from the templates as well). —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:53, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Seems okay to me. It's borderline, obviously, but this seems like a good course of action.--Sean|Black 07:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

But they do appear very briefly as their actual characters of the Doctor in one scene - when the Eighth Doctor dies and is greeted by his other aspects inside his head. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

That's true. I'd forgotten that bit. But is it enough to merit the story's inclusion in the category? After all, we don't include The Caves of Androzani as a Sixth Doctor serial, even though the Sixth Doctor has about three lines in it. (Sort of playing devil's advocate here.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I would distinguish Caves because the Doctor's lines, such as they are, have nothing to do with the story. Whereas in Zagreus, the aspects are part of the plot. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

If Zagreus is a multi-Doctor story because the other Doctors appear inside the Doctor's head, is Timewyrm: Revelation? Daibhid C (talk) 19:57, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Liverpudlian Zagreus

I think it's worth mentioning in the trivia section that the hologram Zagreus in the Omega audio CD has a comedy Liverpool accent. I notice from the history that somebody tried to suggest it before and was shot down. Paul McGann has a mild Liverpool accent; the Zagreus in Omega has a very pronounced, comical, fake one - he almost sounds like one of Harry Enfield's Scousers. I guess it's a joke that doesn't travel outside of the UK, but trust me, it IS a joke - and a funny one. Cardinal Wurzel 14:21, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Foreshadowing?

At around.. oh.. 35 minutes or so, of part 1, the Doctor mentions he can see other realities and lists a few of his visions. Including one where Earth is attacked by the Nestene Consciousness and one where he removed one of his hearts. This could easily be interpreted as both the first episode of the revived series, "Rose", and the season 3 episodes pertaining to the Family of Blood (one of which is named as such, I forget the other). While these may no doubt be referencing some of the many stories told before the revival, I do find it rather curious that they'd be fairly good descriptions of episodes to come.--68.111.242.170 (talk) 20:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Deletion Discussion

There have been no edits to this article in spite of 4 year old tags requesting improvements; this audio was PROD'ed earlier this week but the tag was removed by an editor so it seems that a deletion discussion will be required for consensus to be reached, or potentially the possibility of deletion will lead to reputable citations of notability. A quick search throws out a lot of pages, but I could see nothing which was not either a sales page, a blogger or another form of non-notable review. Perhpas someone who knows the subject in more depth can do better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.22.6 (talk) 17:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Delete it all, I suppose. There's not really much demand for information on anything on this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.253.171 (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I believe sources are there to support many of these Doctor Who spin-off articles, it just seems like creating the article for a release is exciting, but doing the graft to get it supported by sources and in a decent shape (not to short, not too long) is a bit tedious and boring for many. But I would say if you feel strongly enough to challenge a PROD you should be prepared to act positively and put the work in to improve the articles. A case in point- all Big Finish releases that have been broadcast on BBC Radio 7/BBC Radio 4 Extra can be supported by adding a broadcast section that is properly referenced to the BBC R4x website, but many of the pages for plays broadcast on the BBC lack a broadcast section, let alone references Rankersbo (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I've asked someone at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion to look into this, which is what I think 94.173.22.6 was meant to do in the first place. Bondegezou (talk) 16:11, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

That would make more sense than waiting for a random logged in editor to come along and comeplte the nomination, it's true. StuartDouglas (talk) 16:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, should have posted here - I completed the nomination and posted it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zagreus (audio drama). I used the rationale from the edit summary; if any of you want to bring some of the comments here to the debate, go for it. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 00:26, 28 May 2013 (UTC)