Template:Did you know nominations/Art in Paris
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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Art in Paris[edit]
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that the Louvre of Paris is the world's largest and most famous museum, housing many works of art, including the Mona Lisa (pictured) and the Venus de Milo statue?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Gilderien (talk) and Bonkers The Clown (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld at 07:43, 12 July 2013 (UTC).
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I do not see "world's largest and most famous museum" supported by the source.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:25, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. I noticed this was not nominated until the sixth day after the content creation began (however since we are on 12-hour sets, we must be short of hooks).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:30, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- A few hours late, yes.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 06:42, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Length and date are solid otherwise.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:09, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- I believe the image passes, give the size of the Mona Lisa. However, we might want to call in the experts if we want to include the photo on the main page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:13, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Length and date are solid otherwise.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:09, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
There is a major sourcing problem: while the article cites Michelin 2011 seven times and Lawrence & Gondrand 2010 six times, neither has a matching entry in the bibliography section, which is a must when using this sourcing format. I couldn't do a quick close paraphrase check without further information on the sources. Can this please be corrected? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:49, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- The article was split after I condensed it in the Paris article, this is why. I believe I've fixed the issue now, if not, give me another bell.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 06:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks; the two sources are now in the bibliography section. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:41, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- The article was split after I condensed it in the Paris article, this is why. I believe I've fixed the issue now, if not, give me another bell.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 06:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- To Gilderien: Can you list out those offline sources as I asked earlier? ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 04:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Could you ping me in future, I only stumbled across this randomly. May I also ask what you mean?--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- A more concise hook possibility which also avoids the superlatives about the Louvre which are of tangential relevance to the target article which is about the art:
- ALT1: ... that the Louvre houses many of the most famous art works in Paris, including the Mona Lisa (pictured) and the Venus de Milo statue?
- EdChem (talk) 04:55, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- I think the world's largest museum is worthy of mentioning. I've now sourced so the original hook should be fine.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Why is one source for largest and most famous with the footnotes and the other tucked away under the footnotes?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- I am unable to see page 18 of ref 10 (i am on my backup computer this week).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:00, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Page 20 mentioned in the article of reference 10 reads " “Musee du Luvre is the most famous museum in the world with over 6 million visitors each year…”. --Nvvchar. 18:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I am unable to see page 18 of ref 10 (i am on my backup computer this week).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:00, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Why is one source for largest and most famous with the footnotes and the other tucked away under the footnotes?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- I think the world's largest museum is worthy of mentioning. I've now sourced so the original hook should be fine.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Reviewer needed to review ALT1 and issues regarding the original hook (noted by EdChem), and also anything required by DYK beyond article length and date, which have already been reviewed by TonyTheTiger. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- The article does not support "many of the most famous art works in Paris". The closest it comes is "richest art collections in the world" and "world's largest and most famous museum".--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 20:17, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Mona Lisa and Venus de Milo are reffed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 20:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- I struck out the original hook. Here's
ALT2: ... that public access to art in Paris includes museums such as the Louvre ("Mona Lisa" room pictured)?--Rosiestep (talk) 02:26, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- The picture seems unnatural in the sentence. I think you should just mention the Mona Lisa and/or Venus de Milo in was that are properly reffed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 07:42, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- I struck out the original hook. Here's
- ALT3 ... that publically accessible art in Paris includes works such as the Mona Lisa (pictured) and the Venus de Milo? --Rosiestep (talk) 15:03, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Needs a reviewer for ALT3. TonyTheTiger, is this what you were looking for? BlueMoonset (talk) 17:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
ALT3 is supported by the sources and the article is long enough, new enough and consistent with WP policy.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 18:03, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
