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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by sstflyer 08:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
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Black oropendola, Dusky-green oropendola
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... that the black oropendola and the dusky-green oropendola have bag-shaped nests and breed colonially?
- Reviewed: Final Resolution (2006)
- Comment: Also reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Nicky Nichols
5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:54, 13 September 2015 (UTC).
- black oropendola: Article short, but long enough, 5x expanded, neutral, cites reliable sources. I realise it must be difficult to avoid close paraphrasing when using a concise source to produce a similarly concise description of, say, the colouring of a bird, but I think "probably feeds on arthropods, small vertebrates and fruit, and sips nectar from flowers" is a bit too close to the source's "presumably feeds on insects and other arthropods, small vertebrates, fruit, and nectar of large flowers";
- Hook short enough, interesting enough, and as far I can tell accurate, but it isn't stated explicitly in the article. The sentence which comes closest, which contains "nests communally" rather than "breeds colonially" – is that the same thing? – isn't verified by the cited source current ref #4;
- When you revisit the article, you might want to fix "southwestern part of Panama".
- dusky-green oropendola: Article long enough, 5x expanded, neutral, cites reliable sources. No unduly close paraphrasing;
- Hook, again, isn't stated in the article, which says "gourd-shaped" (with typo) rather than bag-shaped, which isn't necessarily the same thing, and, again, isn't verified by the cited source. The book page cited mentions colonial nesting, but not shape of nest;
- 2 QPQs done. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:09, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Struway2: Thanks for the review. I knew there was a bit of a problem about the nest shapes. If you look at the article Oropendola it states that all species nest in "long woven basket nests" but I could not find a source that stated the shape of the nest for my two species. I have rephrased the articles and suggest ALT1. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:41, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the black oropendola and the dusky-green oropendola breed colonially?
- Original hook struck out. ALT1 is even shorter, accurate, stated in the article (in black oropendola it says "nests" colonially, but it comes to the same thing) and properly inline sourced. And I've fixed the Panamanian east-west confusion. Good to go now with ALT1, I think. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:24, 21 September 2015 (UTC)