Template:Did you know nominations/Curt Schimmelbusch
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The result was: promoted by OCNative (talk) 20:54, 17 March 2013 (UTC).
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Curt Schimmelbusch
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- ... that in 1892, Curt Schimmelbusch proposed that medical dressings should be sterilised daily, prior to surgery, and designed an autoclave (pictured) to implement this?
- ALT1:... that in 1892, Curt Schimmelbusch proposed that medical dressings should be sterilised daily, prior to surgery?
- Reviewed: Madura Station
5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nominated at 15:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC).
Expansion checks out, but it was started on 8 March, so this item should perhaps be moved to that date. The article is adequately referenced to reliable sources and the text differs sufficiently from those online sources checked. The hooks are interesting and under 200 characters. The image has a suitable licence in the US, though more information would be useful to cover other countries. (It looks as if Truax died in 1918.[1])- I have a problem with the medical instruments part of the hook; ref 6 seems just to be referring to wound dressings not surgical instruments being sterilised daily: "Schimmelbusch’s solution to that control problem was the sterilisation of the dressings on a daily basis shortly before the operation. After steam sterilisation, the material stayed in the same container until used." cf "Replicating the controlled conditions of the laboratory required utmost thoroughness in disinfection; an objective that Schimmelbusch, like others, thought could be accomplished best with heat sterilisation. On the basis of bacteriological tests and considerations about the preservation of instruments Schimmelbusch recommended boiling them in soda water."[2] The article could also do with more acknowledgement that Schimmelbusch appears (from ref 6) to have largely been popularising work done by others earlier eg Davidsohn, as explained in the preceding section of the article to the one on Schimmelbusch. Is the steriliser an autoclave? The sources seem to refer to it as a cooker or steriliser, but I'm not certain of the precise definition. Espresso Addict (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
- My mistake, I misread the source. I have now changed the hook and article to reflect that it is medical dressings, not instruments he was referring to. I think that the first paragraph of the Aseptic techniques section already refers to the fact that he was doing little more than documenting procedures laid down by other people; however, he was selecting those methods he thought was best, so there is a reasonably level of him making proposals and suggestions. I can tweak it further if you feel necessary though. As to an autoclave, what Schimmelbusch designed was an autoclave, and I used the term in the hook primarily to avoid repetition of "sterilise" in a short sentence, but if you think it would be less confusing to use the latter term, I can switch it. Harrias talk 10:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I think what you've added is ok. It's not necessary to go into the whole history of sterilisation in surgery, though it's an interesting topic that we don't seem to cover. Autoclave is fine as long as it's an autoclave; I just wasn't sure of the precise definition as it's a long way away from modern devices. Espresso Addict (talk) 14:45, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
