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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:40, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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Day of Remembrance for all Victims of Chemical Warfare[edit]

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Created by Bonkers The Clown (talk). Self nominated at 09:46, 4 October 2013 (UTC).

New enough, no Copyvios found, 1895 characters (readable prose size). The official "event's purpose" is twice repeated. The 2nd one should be marked as quote which reduces the character count to 1621 (passes 1500). Rest OK. Solomon7968 08:30, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment: is "celebrated" the right word for this, or would "observed" be more appropriate for a day of this nature? BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 16:30, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
To celebrate just means to observe, although yes I'd definitely agree that it's used more often than not for joyous occasions. That doesn't mean it's usage here it's inappropriate. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 05:37, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
I think the verb we are looking for is "to commemorate". --PFHLai (talk) 15:18, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
  • The article is too short: neither use of the quote counts toward the total, as both exceed the size limit. DYKcheck gives 1616 prose characters including the quote in the lede; subtracting those 270 characters leaves the article at 1346, which is too short; more material will need to be added. In addition, the PFHLai's suggestion of using a form of "to commemorate" in the hook is a good one, and I've struck the original "celebrated" hook (it really is the wrong word here) and proposed an ALT1 with "commemorated" in it. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Why should we not consider the quoted content? Many film articles have much longer quoted content, e.g. in reviews. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 07:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
  • We do consider short quoted content, but WP:DYKSG#A2 notes that block quotes are not counted at DYK. Film articles with long quotes, when they come through DYK, should not count as original prose anything that, by WP:MOSQUOTE standards, should be in a blockquote. I don't believe there are supposed to be blockquoted sections in an article intro, but if they're long enough to be blockquotes, we shouldn't count them at DYK, and since here the exact same text is blockquoted in the article's body, it doesn't count. Basically, it's a large chunk of text that you're copying into the article; as such, it doesn't count toward the minimum length required. (The emphasis here at DYK is on new and original material; extensive quotes are, by definition, someone else's writing, and therefore neither new nor original.) BlueMoonset (talk) 07:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
without quotes the article is now at 2153 character -- Esemono (talk) 02:16, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Date, NPOV, and sources check out and the hook is cited. I made some modifications to make it flow better and eliminate a few redundancies and it now stands at 2059 characters not counting the blockquote so length is fine. Should be good to go. Thingg⊕⊗ 20:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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