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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 18:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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Efkan Ala, Lütfi Elvan, İdris Güllüce, Fikri Işık, Ayşenur İslam, Emrullah İşler, Akif Çağatay Kılıç, Nihat Zeybekci
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- ... that following a corruption scandal in Turkey, PM Erdoğan reshuffled his cabinet appointing ten ministers, among them nine new – Ala, Çavuşoğlu, Elvan, Güllüce, Işık, İslam, İşler, Kılıç and Zeybekci?
Created by CeeGee (talk). Self nominated at 19:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC).
- Additional QPQs needed per Supplementary guidelines H4
Where a hook has more than one new or expanded article in it, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required: one article reviewed for each bolded article in the hook.
— Maile (talk) 21:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
- Additional QPQs needed per Supplementary guidelines H4
Full review needed of hook and all ten articles. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:13, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
- The hook refers to eight new articles only. Am I wrong? --CeeGee 20:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Eight articles it is; my apologies for the miscount. Reviewer still needed. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:29, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- @CeeGee: The articles are not short of citations. However, there seems to be not a single non-Turkish source for any of the articles. I think it would be extremely helpful if there were some English language sources – at least one important one for each article – this one? The appointments seem to have all taken place on 25 December, yet some of the bios state other dates (26 Dec). Please verify and amend accordingly. -- Ohc ¡digame! 02:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- The hook
: the assertion that 10 ministerial posts were shuffled, is confirmed to this RS. Google translate seems to be good enough to render this in verifiable text without ambiguity, so the hook is approved. -- Ohc ¡digame! 06:26, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Efkan Ala
Article created two days prior to nomination. It is long enough (1713B) and the basic facts check out. I ran string searches from the article using google but turned up only WP mirror sites, so that suggests it's reasonably free from copyvios. The date of resignation of his predecessor and his own appointment per this source in English confirms the the resignation/appointment took place on Wednesday (which would be 25 December). -- Ohc ¡digame! 03:21, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Lütfi Elvan
Article created one day prior to nomination. It is long enough (2112B) and the basic facts check out. String searches from the article using google showed only WP mirror sites, so that suggests it's reasonably free from copyvios. The date of resignation of his predecessor and his own appointment seems to be one day out per this source in English (published 25 December). -- Ohc ¡digame! 06:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- İdris Güllüce
Article created day of nomination. It is long enough (1751B) and the basic facts check out using Gtrans on this source. Searches of strings from the article using google showed only WP mirror sites, so that suggests it's reasonably free from copyvios. Again, the date of his own appointment seems to be one day out per this source in English (published 25 December). -- Ohc ¡digame! 07:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Fikri Işık
Article created day of nomination. It is long enough (1616B) and the basic facts check out using Gtrans on this source. String searches from the article using google showed only WP mirror sites, so that suggests it's reasonably free from copyvios. The date of his own appointment seems to be one day out per this source in English (published 25 December).
Ayşenur İslam-- Ohc ¡digame! 07:35, 30 January 2014 (UTC)Article created one day prior to nomination. Barely scrapes in (1572B). Need second opinion on basic facts.
- Emrullah İşler
Article created one day prior to nomination. It is long enough (1616B) and the basic facts check out using Gtrans on this source. String searches from the article using google showed only WP mirror sites, so that suggests it's reasonably free from copyvios. As above, appointment date needs checking. -- Ohc ¡digame! 07:35, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Akif Çağatay Kılıç
Article created day of nomination. It is long enough (1669B) and the basic facts check out using Gtrans on this source, where there is an error – need to determine exact name of university (Hereford vs Hertford). String searches from the article using google showed only WP mirror sites, so that suggests it's reasonably free from copyvios. As above, appointment date needs checking. -- Ohc ¡digame! 07:49, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Nihat Zeybekci
Article created on the day of nomination. It is long enough (1825B) and the basic facts check out using Gtrans on this source. Searches of strings from the article using google showed only WP mirror sites, suggesting it's reasonably free from copyvios. Appointment date needs checking. -- Ohc ¡digame! 07:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ohc! First of all thanks a lot indeed for your reviewing efforts. Refering to your comments:
- 1. OK. I'm gonna add the English-language source you noted and maybe some others to each of the articles as requested,
- 2. The PM announced his cabinet reshuffle in the evening hours of Dec. 25, however assuming office of the newly-appointed government ministers took place naturely the next day on Dec. 26. I'll try to clarify it,
- 3. I couldn't understand what is missing in the article Ayşenur İslam? If there is something I can do in order to clear your issue, pls specify further,
- 4. The name of the university, Akif Çağatay Kılıç graduated from, is given in the source as Hereford. That is correct. However, there is no higher educational institution in the town as stated in the Education-University subsection of the said town's article, which is written as "Herefordshire is one of only three English counties not to have a university." Therefore, I assumed the source made a typo. There is one university in Hertford, which has a similar name.
- I hope there is nothing more I missed to check. --CeeGee 08:44, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- #1 and #2
Done, #4 clarified with an inline note. Awaiting your details to #3. --CeeGee 10:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- #1 and #2
- Thanks
- Noted, seems logical.
- Relying on the bios in the Radikal article through Gtrans, I could not get enough clarity to confirm what was in the article. Sometimes it's good enough when sentences are short and simple, but the translation looked a bit jumbled for Ayşenur İslam (as it often is), and I was afraid of getting the details wrong. If you can find me a source that renders sufficiently through Gtrans, I will finish the job.
- The Radikal source I used (referred to above) spelt it "Herford", so I just wanted to be sure. Glad you confirmed it.
- Seem to cover it. Thanks for your clarifications. -- Ohc ¡digame! 10:40, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- PS, the DYK requirement is that the hook must be sourced in the article concerned. In this case all the articles reviewed. I would therefore ask you to add that sentence to say that 10 new ministers had been appointed (but not necessarily naming all their names) to all the articles, and then tag an English citation to that phrase. Thanks, -- Ohc ¡digame! 10:44, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Done all. Pls, recheck. --CeeGee 12:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Ayşenur İslam
Article created one day prior to nomination. Length satisfactory. Based on the other articles in this nomination, I have every confidence that the facts are straight. -- Ohc ¡digame! 15:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Off you go to the prep area! -- Ohc ¡digame! 15:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)