Template:Did you know nominations/Helmut Bauer (bishop)
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Helmut Bauer (bishop)
Maria im Aufgang chapel in Schimborn
- ... that Helmut Bauer, auxiliary bishop responsible for church music in the Diocese of Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, founded a chapel to Mary (pictured) in his home town? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Samuel Lander
- Comment: You can see on youtube how parts from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him at his cathedral today (beginning c. 6 min into it).
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2120 past nominations.
Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
Date, length, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check checks out. Image free on Commons (albeit not great quality). --Soman (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman and Gerda Arendt: a couple of things. Firstly, on English terminology: notwithstanding the direct translation of "Feldkapelle", a "chapel" in English is usually a room in a larger building. I would instead call this a "shrine" or similar.Secondly, on WP:DYKINT: perhaps we could trim the bits about his various jobs and focus on the chapel? To me, it is interesting that it is now a hiking destination, or that a ceremony has been held on the same feast day since 1984, the day of its consecration. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ok for ALT1. I'm still also ok with the original hook, a kapelle is a chapel and a feldkapelle is a field chapel. See for example "feldkapelle, or field chapel, a Northern European tradition of building small chapels in rural and agrarian landscapes." ([2]) --Soman (talk) 09:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
