Template:Did you know nominations/Hongcheon County

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 03:49, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hongcheon County[edit]

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5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:03, 14 June 2013 (UTC).

Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Diadema paucispinum.

  • The original hook is cited, but I don't find it particularly interesting. For the ALT, the same source has been cited, but I could not find in it a reference to either the azalea (mentioned in the hook) or the magpie (mentioned in the article). The same goes for the citation on demography. The sourcing needs to be reworked. Ashwin147 (talk) 05:39, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Ashwin, it is my mistake. Ref 5 should have been cited at both places. The name of the flower is in the Korean language. I have fixed the references.--Nvvchar. 14:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
  • There seems to be a problem with the citation from "Asia's Environmental Movements"; its been cited in 4 different contexts with respect to Hongcheon county and yet Hongcheon itself finds a mention in the book only once and that is with respect to KFEM. So this citation needs to be checked throughout the article. Ashwin147 (talk) 18:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Missing the obvious. Thanks. I have re-fixed the references.--Nvvchar. 22:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Are Chal Oksusu Festival and Hongcheon Glutinous Corn Festival the same? This needs clarification. From the citation they appear to be the same, but the article mentions them separately. Also, the last subheading on notable people is entirely unreferenced. Ashwin147 (talk) 04:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
^ Made changes in the article to meet your concern. --Nvvchar. 04:47, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
  • There are two claims in the ALT1 hook: that azalea is the national flower of Hongcheon County and also of Korea. The cited website supports neither of these: it lists a county flower (not national) in Korean only (presumably the azalea, but under the circumstances I think a bit more is needed), and does not give any indication that this is the flower of Korea. (And is it South Korea, North Korea, or both?) Finally, I have to ask what makes everydaykorea.com—it appears to be a commercial site—a reliable source? I looked at their "About" page, and there's no information there at all. The site's Terms and Conditions page does not give me confidence that accuracy or reliability is a top priority here. Note: I've struck the original hook as being completely uninteresting. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Follow-up: the http://wiki.galbijim.com/Hongcheon page (accessible by searching at everydaykorea.com) clearly meets the definition of an openwiki, and is thus not a reliable source per WP:USERG: looking at the history, this is information added by one user on July 18, 2006, with no citations. As the source is unacceptable for Wikipedia, you'll need to find another source (that meets WP:RS requirements) for the azalea info and also for the other four places where the source is cited in the article. You can also propose additional ALT hooks that rely on other sourcing. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I've c/e the article, deleted the wiki.galbijim.com ref, and deleted content attributed to the ref. It needs a new hook. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:56, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT2 is proposed with a picture.--Nvvchar. 00:42, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that the emblem of Hongcheon County, consisting of a leaf and dew, represents the "County of Culture and Tourism" and "patriotism and the love of one's home"?
  • Nomination needs a full review. Since the picture for ALT2 was removed from here by another user as it was non-free (and thus against DYK rules), I've removed "pictured" from the hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:16, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Size and expansion ok. I am not a fan of the hook. A couple of refs I checked verified material. Hang on.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I would tweak to ALT3 ... that the emblem of Hongcheon County, consisting of a leaf and dew, symbolises its clean environment?
  • (edit conflict) Now needs a review of ALT3, since the "symbolizes" material is new. Sorry, Cas Liber, but you can't add material to an article, put it in a hook, and promote it all in one go: see WP:DYKSG#H2. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT3 hook approved; it is in the article and supported by the given inline source. Striking ALT2. Rest of approval per Cas Liber above. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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