Template:Did you know nominations/John B. Creeden

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:45, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

John B. Creeden

John B. Creeden
John B. Creeden

Created by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 18:20, 27 September 2019 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - The hook may be confusing. Do you mean School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University as well as the School of Foreign Service at Boston College Law School; or Georgetown's School of Foreign Service as well as Boston College Law School?
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: This was related to the original image, which was later swapped out.

    • If this was never published before 2003, and we don't know the author, the image license is not correct. If the author died after 1949, the picture may still be copyrighted. However, if this was published before 1924, this would be public domain regardless. epicgenius (talk) 00:18, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Right. That picture was uploaded before I wrote this article; I should have checked its copyright status. I've replaced the image both here and in the article. Requesting deletion from the Commons. Ergo Sum 00:36, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
As for the hook, this is one of those shortcomings of modern English. As a matter of logic, it is ambiguous, but I really don't think it is to the attentive reader. The alternative would be to phrase it "...both Boston College Law School and the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University", in which the ambiguity is whether BC Law is part of Georgetown. Ergo Sum 00:38, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
@Ergo Sum: If you're requesting deletion from Commons, I should hide the image thumbnail here.
With respect to the hook, you can just say "as well as" rather than "and". Only 7 more characters and the hook doesn't overrun the character limit. I find that this works in translation. epicgenius (talk) 00:45, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: No, I've already removed the problem image from this hook as well as the article. The one here now is a different image (the one that was already used in the article's infobox). Also, re-worded the hook. Ergo Sum 00:56, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
@Ergo Sum: Should be good to go now, in that case. epicgenius (talk) 00:58, 28 September 2019 (UTC)