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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 10:06, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Joseph Eiboeck
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that newspaper editor and author Joseph Eiboeck wrote the only book that is about settlers in Iowa of German, Swiss, and Austrian descent?Source: "Die Deutschen von Iowa und deren Errungenschaften (The Germans of Iowa and Their Achievements) is the only book dedicated to the history of German, Swiss, and Austrian settlers across the state. It was written in 1900 by Joseph Eiboeck, editor of Des Moines's German-language newspaper, the Iowa Staats-Anzeiger. Eiboeck's original work, printed in German blackletter font (Fraktur), is available through the Digital Library of the Hathi Trust." - German Iowa and the Global Midwest
Created by SL93 (talk) and Cielquiparle. Self-nominated at 16:28, 30 April 2022 (UTC).
- Article is new and long enough; no copyvio issues per Earwig; QPQ is done. There are two issues to resolve: 1) Sources could use a bit more work. For example, "GenWeb" on its own raises flags as a source, until you realize that the actual source is probably History of Iowa by B.F. Gue, so listing Debbie Gerischer as the author is misleading. It's a book from 1903 that is available for free, so please have a look. Also, The Annals of Iowa has a 2019 article called "Iowa's Prohibition Plague: Joseph Eiboeck's Account of the Battle over Prohibition, 1846–1900", worth checking out. 2) The proposed hook ALT0, as worded, is not OK. There is at least one other book, called German Settlers of Iowa, Their Descendants, and European Ancestors by Margaret Krug Palen (1994). Maybe there is a compelling hook somewhere inside the prohibition article. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:10, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Cielquiparle I think I took care of the issues. I propose ALT1
... that newspaper editor and author Joseph Eiboeck (pictured) wrote a book in 1900 about German settlers in Iowa which was a topic that, at the time, was rarely written about?and ALT2 ... that newspaper editor and author Joseph Eiboeck (pictured) was the honorary commissioner from Iowa for the 1873 Vienna World's Fair? SL93 (talk) 14:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC) - Cielquiparle I added an image to the article and hook plus more information to the article. ALT3 ... that newspaper editor and author Joseph Eiboeck (pictured) was a commissioner from Iowa for the 1873 Vienna World's Fair and the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition? SL93 (talk) 21:50, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- It looks like I need a new reviewer since you added new content to the article. SL93 (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes! Still adding/peeling the onion, will also propose more hooks as member of #TeamEiboeck now, not as the reviewer. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:25, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Cielquiparle I think I took care of the issues. I propose ALT1
- Additional hooks for consideration by a new reviewer:
- ALT3: ... that Joseph Eiboeck was a printer's devil at the first German-language newspaper in Iowa?
- ALT4: ... that Joseph Eiboeck opposed Prohibition in Iowa, despite not drinking alcohol himself?
- ALT5: ... that The New York Times said that Joseph Eiboeck "represents the extreme views of the liquor interests in Iowa politics"?
- ALT6: ... that Joseph Eiboeck called the period from July 4, 1884 to 1890 "a reign of terror for Iowa"? Cielquiparle (talk) 07:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- I just took a quick look at the article and I would say that the Prohibition-related hooks are probably the best options here. I'm a bit partial to ALT3 given that I think it's surprising that a US state used to have a German-language paper, but I think the best options here are ALT4 and ALT6 (ALT4 for the contrast and ALT6 for the mystique of what the "reign of terror" was exactly). I don't have a specific preference between the two so I'll leave it to the promoter. As the hooks are all cited to offline sources I am assuming good faith on their reliability. The rest of the review is per Cielquiparle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Narutolovehinata5, also for the flag about "offline sources" – I've now updated one of the refs in the article with a link to the PDF of the journal article (provided by the State Historical Society of Iowa). (The PDF link was in my first comment above but you were right, it wasn't in the article itself, just the DOI link.) I don't think it's possible to clip/share NYT Digital Archive articles though. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:46, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- By the way, Cielquiparle should probably have an author credit as well. SL93 (talk) 03:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Narutolovehinata5, also for the flag about "offline sources" – I've now updated one of the refs in the article with a link to the PDF of the journal article (provided by the State Historical Society of Iowa). (The PDF link was in my first comment above but you were right, it wasn't in the article itself, just the DOI link.) I don't think it's possible to clip/share NYT Digital Archive articles though. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:46, 27 May 2022 (UTC)