Template:Did you know nominations/Kevon Looney

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:24, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Kevon Looney

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... that UCLA freshman Kevon Looney (pictured) was named Wisconsin Mr. Basketball after he nearly averaged a quadruple-double in high school?

Reviewed: Arne Hegerfors
Comment: Mention of quadruple-double average is at UCLA freshman Kevon Looney ready to make instant impact (currently ref No. 7)

Created by Bagumba (talk). Self nominated at 10:28, 23 November 2014 (UTC).

New enough, long enough, and free of any apparent policy issues (ie, the article is neutral, very well cited, and free of any plagiarism or close paraphrasing issues). The hook is short enough, interesting, cited in the article, and doesn't raise any BLP issues. QPQ has been done, and the image looks good to me (it is freely licensed under the CC-BY-SA-3.0 license, is used in the article, and shows up pretty well at small size). I think the article is good to go. Michael Barera (talk) 04:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

The source for his being named Wisconsin Mr. Basketball makes no mention of the quadruple-double. It seems he won this award for his overall achievement that year. The CBS source mentioned above weaves the two together in journalese, not in fact. Yoninah (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it is an issue; as I interpret the hook, it is stating that he first averaged nearly a quadruple-double during his senior year in high school (as both the CBS source and his UCLA bio indicate), and then ("after") he was named Mr. Basketball in Wisconsin. Both happened, and one happed before the other, but the fact that Looney nearly averaged a quadruple-double was not the reason he won Mr. Basketball per se. Both of the previously mentioned articles, as well as one of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel articles, support the latter claim that Looney was indeed named Wisconsin Mr. Basketball. Based on how I read it, at least, I don't think that there is a problem with the hook. Michael Barera (talk) 17:12, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, if I can misinterpret it, others can. How about rewording it:
ALT1~~: ... that before joining the UCLA Bruins, Kevon Looney (pictured) nearly averaged a quadruple-double in high school and was named Wisconsin Mr. Basketball?~~ Yoninah (talk) 17:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Your alternate hook looks and sounds good to me, Yoninah. But, more importantly than my opinion, what does Bagumba think? Michael Barera (talk) 00:26, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I left a note on his talk page. Yoninah (talk) 10:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Similar to User:Michael Barera, I think it is semantically incorrect to interpret after to mean because in the original hook of "... after he nearly averaged a quadruple-double ..." ATL1 seems OK, so I'm OK with whatever is decided.—Bagumba (talk) 06:29, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm also fine with whatever is decided, and both the original hook and Yoninah's alternate look good to me. Michael Barera (talk) 21:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Still waiting for someone to pick one of the two hooks. @Michael Barera and Yoninah: Would either of you be willing to finalize this? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 03:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I personally prefer Bagumba's original hook. As long as Yoninah is OK with it, I say we go with it. If not, then we go with the other one. Either way, I think we can finalize this nomination in short order. Michael Barera (talk) 05:13, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I defer to consensus. Yoninah (talk) 16:40, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Great. This article is good to go! Michael Barera (talk) 21:04, 27 December 2014 (UTC)