Template:Did you know nominations/Ku Klux Klan in Canada
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 16:49, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
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Ku Klux Klan in Canada
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... that in the 1920s, the Ku Klux Klan in Canada included a Conservative Member of Parliament in the House of Commons and liberal, conservative, and progressive supporters?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Robbi Weldon (see my DYK tracker) Mindmatrix 18:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Display anytime in February, during Black History Month in the US and Canada Mindmatrix 18:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Moved to mainspace by Mindmatrix (talk). Self nominated at 18:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC).
Wow, great article Mindmatrix! Consider taking to FA? Anyway, length, newness GF (too lazy to figure it out), cites are excellent, QPQ all good to go. Surprised no one reviewed this yet. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! I think reviewers tend to shy away from longer articles like this one, which is why I try to review as many "long" articles as I self-nominate for DYK. As far as FA is concerned, the article needs some work for material about BC and eastern Canada, as well as its post-1930s decline and minor splinter groups that pop up infrequently, before I could consider doing that; I do intend to add this material sometime. Mindmatrix 00:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Mindmatrix, I noticed that this was running out of time to be promoted as requested in February, but when I went to check the hook I discovered that while 1920s fits the three groups of supporters, the Member of Parliament (Cowan) served from 1930 to 1935, and therefore doesn't count as 1920s. Can you adjust the hook (or propose a new one) that fits the facts as laid out in the article? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oops. Excuse my gaffe. How about this slight modification (a shade under 200 characters):
- ALT1: ... that the Ku Klux Klan in Canada, established in the 1920s, once included a Conservative Member of Parliament in the House of Commons and had liberal, conservative, and progressive supporters?
- BTW: the image should be checked for DYK criteria too. Mindmatrix 00:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not even sure the image is PD in Canada. How can you claim 50 years after the death of the author, when this is a group collaboration? ALT Hook looks fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:40, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Everything before 1949 is considered PD. This has been checked and OKed by both the commons and the FA crowd. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Then you need a template that actually says that. This is not a photograph, but an illustration. Thus, the current template you're using doesn't apply. Then there's the question of whether or not the copyright on this was renewed or not; if List of countries' copyright lengths is correct and anonymous works are 50 years post publication, it should be fine (1930 + 50 = 1980, whereas the URAA wasn't until 1996), but this still needs to be noted on the file page. (Also note that 1949 + 50 is 1999, meaning works published in 1949 would have had their copyright extended in the US). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:31, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Everything before 1949 is considered PD. This has been checked and OKed by both the commons and the FA crowd. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oops. Excuse my gaffe. How about this slight modification (a shade under 200 characters):
- Mindmatrix, I'd like to suggest that we drop the image from the nomination, then. It doesn't translate well at 100x100px—I can't read the logo at that size—and without it, there's nothing to prevent a promotion to prep while we can still get it in under the February wire, which in terms of set building is probably measured in hours. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:37, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'm OK with that. I'm also OK with not running this in February if it causes scheduling conflicts, as the KKK in Canada in the 1920s and 1930s was more about restricting immigration from (primarily Eastern) Europe and making Canada more British than it was about "white power". Mindmatrix 14:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Since Crisco has approved ALT1, I'm going to remove my earlier objection, which will allow this to be shoehorned into a February 28 set. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:49, 27 February 2015 (UTC)