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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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Susanne Craig

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  • ... that Susanne Craig was born in the same hospital as Ted Cruz a year apart?
    • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Lisha2037 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Lisha2037 (talk) 00:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - Hook doesn't appear to be supported by article. Cannot find mention of Cruz in edit history.
  • Interesting: No - Is there more context that can be given that signals why this is interesting, beyond coincidence? It looks like there might be at this article, but it's paywalled.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Updated - see ALT1 and ALT2 below. Great work getting this article to GA status! It looks like this hook isn't in the article - please take a look at WP:DYKHOOK. Even if it were, I'm not sure it's the most interesting hook there could be for this article unless there's missing detail from the source. Please take a look and see if this one can be improved, or if there's another you'd suggest. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Jonathan Deamer it’s my first time nominating for DYK so I’m still getting used to what that entails regarding style and interest. If you would be done to suggest something? I think since elections are coming up maybe something related to that and the Trump a tax story? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 15:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
How about something on the fact they she received the first batch of tax return documents anonymously in her mailbox? The NPR source has some additional colour on this.
The early career section could be expanded with some of the details on her time at the Guantlet from this piece. Pullitzer prize winner only started journalism to get free dinner theatre tickets could be a fun hook if you can find the right wording :) Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
@Jonathan Deamer I think the tax idea is better for the current events. Did you know the journalist who won the Pulitzer for breaking the story on Trump’s taxes received them anonymously in her mailbox? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

@Lisha2037 Thanks! I've taken the liberty of building on this with a couple of alternatives:

  • ALT1: ... that Susanne Craig won a Pulitzer Prize for her reporting on Donald Trump's taxes after receiving his tax records anonymously in her mailbox? NBC, 2016: ""I opened it up and there was three pages of Donald Trump's tax returns there and I just went 'No way!'" she said in an interview with NBC News on Monday. Craig said she was instantly intrigued but skeptical about the authenticity of the documents she’d received anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."
  • ALT2 (in case direct mentions of politicians is not desirable in DYK for the next few weeks): ... that Pulitzer Prize winner Susanne Craig advises her fellow reporters to check their snail mail? New York Times: "The whole experience has left me eager to share a bit of advice with my fellow reporters: Check your mailboxes. Especially nowadays, when people are worried that anything sent by email will leave forensic fingerprints, “snail mail” is a great way to communicate with us anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."

I think either ALT1 or ALT2 is good to go, but to avoid approving "my own" hook, and given this is potentially a contentious subject right now, could another reviewer please take a look just at these two hooks? Thanks in advance! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@Jonathan Deamer / I like the first hook better. Let me know what I need to do next! :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisha2037 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
@Lisha2037 No further action needed from you! When another editor checks these hooks we're good to go. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
@Lisha2037 and Jonathan Deamer: ALT1 is more interesting than ALT2, though could do with being truncated at 'taxes' per WP:DYKTRIM. Article says Craig won the prize, the article says she shared it with two others. Did they each get one?--Launchballer 18:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Launchballer The Pulitzer Prize is given digitally to all of them with all of them receiving the prize and the $15,000 award. :::::@Lisha2037:
Fine by me. For your information, pings don't work unless you sign, and you sign with ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC). The cited source is down and I'd prefer to see a secondary source anyway; when you've done that, I will approve this.--Launchballer 11:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Launchballer- did you mean a source citing the monetary award given? It’s here [1] Lisha2037 (talk) 20:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC)@lisha2037
No, what I meant is that the source currently being used to cite the hook - currently ref #25 - is broken. It is not displaying what it is supposed to display. I suggest swapping it out with a secondary source such as Vogue.--Launchballer 20:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Launchballer- the source works just fine for me. It’s straight from the website of the Pulitzer Prizes. Lisha2037 (talk) 23:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)@lisha2037
Launchballer, when I click on the link for ref #25 in the article, it takes me to the Pulitzer Prizes source; that page shows the three winners including Craig and the $15,000 prize amount. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
It certainly wasn't when I checked before, but it is now. Let's roll.--Launchballer 21:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Pulitzer FAQs".


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