Template:Did you know nominations/The Three Garridebs (film)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:24, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
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The Three Garridebs (film)[edit]
- ... that in The Three Garridebs (1937), Louis Hector became the first actor to portray Sherlock Holmes on television?
Created/expanded by ThaddeusSholto (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 5 January 2018 (UTC).
A great fact for a DYK (though the hook needs rephrasing!) but the article is much too short. At the moment, it is only 567b "readable prose size", but it needs to be at least 1,500b. Is there any chance you can expand it further? Josh Milburn (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thaddeus, if you'll throw in some raw material, I'll copyedit if you'd like that. EEng 21:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'll hit my bookshelf and see if I can find more sources for more material. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 21:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thaddeus, if you'll throw in some raw material, I'll copyedit if you'd like that. EEng 21:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
I added some more content but I don't know how to check the article size so I don't know if I have still fallen short of the mark. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 22:31, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- We're at 1407b now- just a little short of the mark! (I've lightly copyedited the hook.) Josh Milburn (talk) 22:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- I added a touch more. Did I make it across the line? (I also like the copyedit of the hook!) ThaddeusSholto (talk) 22:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. As the Master said: "There is no branch of editing, Watson, which is so important and so much neglected as the art of DYK hooking" – "The Adventure of the Errant Laptop" (1894). EEng 01:15, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yep, looks like you're over the line; just passing through right now, and will look properly later! Josh Milburn (talk) 08:30, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- I think we can improve it further first. Needs a copyedit. Thaddeus, is there any info on how this presentation differed from the story? That's alway interesting. Does Watson get shot? Do they consult Lestrade? EEng 15:45, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Everything looks OK for DYK purposes, but if we want to try to expand a little further, I could hold off approving? Josh Milburn (talk) 17:48, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- To be honest, I've exhausted what I am able to contribute. I don't believe the program was recorded so I have never seen it and I can only go by what I have read and I used all my personal resources in the article already. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 18:15, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
We're good to go, then. One quick question: the article is currently in the category for films set in the 19th century, but, according to The Adventure of the Three Garridebs (it's not one I know, I confess), the story takes place in 1902. Something to look into. (And please double-check the categories that I added to the article!) Either way, nice work on the article, especially for such a great hook. Josh Milburn (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- To be honest, I've exhausted what I am able to contribute. I don't believe the program was recorded so I have never seen it and I can only go by what I have read and I used all my personal resources in the article already. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 18:15, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Everything looks OK for DYK purposes, but if we want to try to expand a little further, I could hold off approving? Josh Milburn (talk) 17:48, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- I think we can improve it further first. Needs a copyedit. Thaddeus, is there any info on how this presentation differed from the story? That's alway interesting. Does Watson get shot? Do they consult Lestrade? EEng 15:45, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yep, looks like you're over the line; just passing through right now, and will look properly later! Josh Milburn (talk) 08:30, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. As the Master said: "There is no branch of editing, Watson, which is so important and so much neglected as the art of DYK hooking" – "The Adventure of the Errant Laptop" (1894). EEng 01:15, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- I added a touch more. Did I make it across the line? (I also like the copyedit of the hook!) ThaddeusSholto (talk) 22:49, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Can we hold off on sending this to prep until we've had time to add to the article a bit? ThaddeusSholto, just to be clear, you actually have Barnes and Haining, and feel you've extracted everything from them? One interesting thing in the statement that the play was broadcast six times times – was it a film shown six times, or was it reperformed live six times? EEng 15:19, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- It is a very old teleplay that was performed live and not recorded so there isn't a lot of information about it. Haining has two stills taken from a television receiver at the time and that is quite a coupe. The performances appear to have been repeated as opposed to airing it repeatedly. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 16:36, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Then why the term television film? EEng 19:21, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Because it seems to meet the description of Television film as a televised drama better than Television play which is about kitchen sink drama. You can change it if you want to a different descriptor but a "play" or even a "teleplay" is the script, not the performance. This article is about the performance. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Then why the term television film? EEng 19:21, 7 January 2018 (UTC)