Template:Did you know nominations/Toothache

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The result was: promoted by Sven Manguard Wha? 04:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Toothache

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• ... that toothache (pictured) can be caused by the brain?

• Alt 1: ... that toothache (pictured) is the most common form of dental emergency?

Improved to Good Article status by Lesion (talk), Ian Furst (talk). Nominated by Matty.007 (talk) at 17:56, 13 March 2014 (UTC).

• Thanks for the nomination. I can confirm the fact is real (albeit uncommon). Although we don't go into detail in the article, lesions of the cranial nerve gangilions can cause neuralgia which can mimick toothache. Not something you see every day, but it happens. Ian Furst (talk) 01:46, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

• Replying here per hint from Matty when I responded on their user talkpage. It was suggested that a quirky hook was required. As stated by Ian above, we are usually talking about the peripheral nervous system rather than brain. However, the article does indeed support this, referenced to this textbook [1] which states that a brain tumor might cause toothache. Rather morbid for a quirky hook? Perhaps a more benign condition would be appropriate, e.g. sinusitis? Lesion (talk) 18:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure quirky was the right word, interesting but not complicated is the general theme for a hook. I don't think it is morbid, just a fact, but if you don't want to use that hook as the one of the article expanders I'll respect your desicion. Thanks, Matty.007 18:52, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

The brain is involved in any pain... if you do not feel a brain tumor is too morbid, then it might be better to actually state brain tumor. I just feel concerned that people might be reading the main page and be panicked about something that is incredibly rare... Lesion (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't mind. What do you think about letting a reviewer give their opinion? Thanks, Matty.007 18:59, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes OK. I can't remember the last time I visited the main page so I have no idea what is the norm for DYK, while looking at your talkpage you clearly would have a better idea of this. Regards, Lesion (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Just putting in a symbol so it is clear there is a review required. Thanks, Matty.007 19:22, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

• The image says it all - OUCH! If you're looking for "hooky", might I suggest something from the "History, society and culture" section. FYI - Ref 7 of that section, says "Not Found" for the DOI - so that would need to be updated. I didn't check the other sources. But assuming you can get any of these sourced at the end of the sentence, I see interesting hooks there:

• ALT2 ... that the 5000 BC "Legend of the worm" from the Euphrates valley was the first known mention of toothache (pictured)?
• ALT 3 ... that Saint Apollonia is the Christian patron saint of toothache (pictured)?
• ALT4 ... that in the Elizabethan era, toothache (pictured) was an ailment associated with lovers?
• ALT5 ... that after a bout with a toothache (pictured), Scottish poet Robert Burns wrote "Address to the Toothache"?
• ALT6 ... that Vaishya Dev is the Newar god of toothache (pictured), and has a shrine in Kathmandu, Nepal?

Just some fun hooks suggested above. — Maile (talk) 14:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Like ALT5 Ian Furst (talk) 13:33, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

GTG on ALT5, liking the fact that Burns wrote an ode to toothache Darkness Shines (talk) 12:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Struck other hooks. Thanks, Matty.007 12:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC)