Template:Did you know nominations/Troll cat

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 06:57, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Troll cat

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• ... that Scandinavian witches reputedly made troll cats from wood shavings and blood, and made them come alive with an invocation to Satan?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Meka Whaitiri

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nominated at 18:24, 13 September 2013 (UTC).

• Spooky balls... This article is new enough, and long enough. no copyvio found. AGF on offline sources. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

• I would throw in a "supposedly", "allegedly", or some such qualifier. I recommend saving this for Halloween. Special occasion hooks can be saved for about six weeks; this would be a tiny bit longer, but we don't tend to get enough good Halloween hooks, so I think a little leeway is called for. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

• "Allegedly"? Fo shizzle? Mandarax, this stuff is real--unlike your art, which is all made up. But if you must, I vote for "reputedly". Drmies (talk) 03:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

• How about "according to legend" or "in Scandinavian folklore"? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 03:49, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

• "In Scandinavian folklore, witches..." Sure. And saving it for Halloween is a great idea, thanks. Drmies (talk) 04:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

• Okay, I've edited the hook accordingly, and since it didn't substantively change the hook, Bonkers The Clown's tick should still be valid. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:17, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

• Not to be a buzzkill here, but adding "in Scandinavian folklore" to a hook is a substantive change that requires a further check of the article to make sure it not only mentions Scandinavian folklore (a fact not previously in the hook), but that there's an inline source that confirms it by the end of the relevant sentence. Bonkers will need to check those both before reiterating the tick. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

• I thought that, given what the hook says, the "folklore" part was pretty self-evident. In the interest of simplicity, I've restored the original, approved hook, merely adding "reputedly" per Drmies' suggestion. That certainly doesn't require any further verification. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:55, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

• Restoring original tick to original (plus "reputedly") hook. You might want to consider changing the first "made" to "formed" or "created", so the word isn't used twice in fairly close succession. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:50, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks. We could eliminate both of 'em. How about replacing the first "made" with "created", and "made them come alive" with "brought them to life"? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

• Note to promoter: the resulting hook, with the minor edits suggested above, would be:

• ... that Scandinavian witches reputedly created troll cats from wood shavings and blood, and brought them to life with an invocation to Satan? —BlueMoonset (talk) 15:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)