Template:Did you know nominations/Walt Disney Animation Studios
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
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Walt Disney Animation Studios
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that Walt Disney Animation Studios gained its current name in 2006?
- ALT1:... that Walt Disney Animation Studios has released 53 animated features so far, starting with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) and most recently with Frozen (2013)?
Improved to Good Article status by FuriousFreddy (talk), Coolcaesar (talk), Forbidden User (talk). Nominated by Forbidden User (talk) at 08:08, 5 August 2014 (UTC).
Recency requirement satisfied (promoted Aug 5). Article is long enough, uses in-line citations and writing seems pretty neutral. Original hook not nearly as interesting as the alt 1 hook. Alt 1 hook is short enough (167 characters) and interesting. However, the in-line citation for the 53 features fact does not link to a page that contains the fact. Spot-checking did not detect plagiarism, copyright violation, close paraphrase problems. No QPQ required as nominator is a relatively new user. Cbl62 (talk) 18:30, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Can we please start asking that hooks have at least a quantum of something interesting about them? A corporate name change... wow. How about
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that Walt Disney Animation Studios was founded in 1923 as Disney Brothers Cartoon Studio?
At least that gives some sense of history and adds a little-known fact -- "Walt Disney had a brother? Tell me more!" Or combine:
- ALT3 ... ... that Walt Disney Animation Studios, founded in 1923 as Disney Brothers Cartoon Studio, has released 53 features, from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) to Frozen (2013)?
EEng (talk) 19:25, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with you on developing interesting hooks, which is why I don't think the original was up to snuff. I do think the alt 1 hook, if confirmed, does a decent job of emphasizing the large number and impressive scope of features. As for the "brothers" bit, I assume many people know about Roy, and the other Roy too, but maybe that's because I live in LA where the Disney family's philanthropy is well known. In any event, don't you think the fact that Walt had a brother falls into the "so what" category? I've always though the 1941 animators' strike was one of the most interesting bits about Disney animation history. With such a rich history, maybe a better hook can be found but I'm not sure the "brother" bit really does it. Cbl62 (talk) 19:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- What I thought was interesting was that the brother worked with Walt in the business, which I think most people don't know, at least not today -- but that was just the first thing I happened to seize on from the lead. Looking more you're right -- there're a zillion interesting things, like that Walt Kelly left after the strike, the pioneering of techniques, etc. Just anything but the corporate name change. Nominator? EEng (talk) 21:40, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with you on developing interesting hooks, which is why I don't think the original was up to snuff. I do think the alt 1 hook, if confirmed, does a decent job of emphasizing the large number and impressive scope of features. As for the "brothers" bit, I assume many people know about Roy, and the other Roy too, but maybe that's because I live in LA where the Disney family's philanthropy is well known. In any event, don't you think the fact that Walt had a brother falls into the "so what" category? I've always though the 1941 animators' strike was one of the most interesting bits about Disney animation history. With such a rich history, maybe a better hook can be found but I'm not sure the "brother" bit really does it. Cbl62 (talk) 19:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
@Cbl62:The "53 animated features" links to the list of all Walt Disney Animation Studios features, with its lead mentioning the fact explicitly. I've changed the inline citation. @EEng:Sorry but ALT2 sounds too historical and so is rather uninteresting to me. ALT3 passes that, but I think it is out of word limit, so I'd like to reaffirm ALT1.Forbidden User (talk) 14:07, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- No, ALT3 is well within the length limit, which is 200 characters, not counting (pictured) if present. I think a hook that arcs from the founding through its latest feature is the most appropriate, but I defer to your choice. EEng (talk) 16:32, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmmm, Cbl62, what's your opinion? Which one, ALT1 or ALT3, do you think is better?Forbidden User (talk) 17:39, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- No, ALT3 is well within the length limit, which is 200 characters, not counting (pictured) if present. I think a hook that arcs from the founding through its latest feature is the most appropriate, but I defer to your choice. EEng (talk) 16:32, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing the link, FU ... wait, that doesn't sound right, I was just abbreviating your user name .... Anyway, the hook fact (including 53 features) is now confirmed. IMO the alt 1 and alt 3 hooks are both fine. Both are short enough. I've stricken the other two and will leave it to the prep builder to make the final call. Cbl62 (talk) 18:19, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- FU2, Cbl62. ;P EEng (talk) 18:37, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- So the prep builder will choose between ALT1 and ALT3?Forbidden User (talk) 06:51, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I have approved both. If you have a strong preference, say so here so the prep builder is aware. Cbl62 (talk) 14:39, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Well I'll let the builder choose.Forbidden User (talk) 15:50, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I have approved both. If you have a strong preference, say so here so the prep builder is aware. Cbl62 (talk) 14:39, 7 August 2014 (UTC)