The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:30, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
... that state legislator Wesley O. Smith represented what are now six large counties in central Oregon(pictured)?
Source: During his two terms in the Oregon legislature, Smith represented four counties ... Crook, Grant, Klamath, and Lake. Jefferson and Deschutes counties had not been separated from Crook County at that time. Deschutes and Jefferson counties are shown as part of District 21 in the 1919 legislative guide ... see District 21 counties represented by Smith’s successor, Denton Burdick.
Overall: Assuming good faith that there are no plagiarism or copyvio issues with the paywalled sources in the article. Although copyvio probably wouldn't be an issue anyways since most of those were from before 1925. I think on it's own, the hook wouldn't be that interesting. The picture helps a lot though because then you can see just how large those "large counties" are. Fortunately, if the promoter or someone else thinks it's not interesting enough, there are many other things in the article that would make for a good DYK. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 17:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Note: I have not looked at the article, but based on the review, I've changed|hookcited= in {{DYK checklist}} from "y" to "agf". This inserts the gray tick instead of the green one. Bait30, I assume this is what you intended, but please let me know if it wasn't. MANdARAX•XAЯAbИAM 21:17, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
@Mandarax: The citation for the hook is freely available which is why I used the green tick. I was just commenting about the other citations in regards to any copyvios. I thought the gray tick was only used when you need to agf on the hook citation. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 21:46, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
You are correct about the gray tick. I misunderstood what you said, and thought when you mentioned AGFing that you also meant it about the hook fact. I've switched it back to your original (and copied the tick here so as to not confuse promoters). Sorry for the inconvenience. MANdARAX•XAЯAbИAM 22:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
No worries, it’s always good to clear up any confusion and misunderstanding. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 22:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but it really isn't hooky without the image, and even with the image it's not so interesting. Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah...while I still like the original DYK hook in combination with map, here is an alternative hook for your consideration:
ALT1 ... that Oregon state legislator Wesley O. Smith was married twice, to two sisters?
Source comes from five newspaper articles. The first article (Medford Mail, 16 Dec 1904, p. 6) says Smith’s first wife (Jessie) was daughter of I. D. Applegate. The second article (Medford Mail, 22 Jan 1904, p. 3) announced the wedding of second Applegate daughter (Lena) to H. B. Hargus. Third article (Oregon Daily Journal, 18 Aug 1905, p. 8) announces death of Smith’s first wife. Forth article (Medford Mail, 25 May 1906, p. 1) announced the death of H. B. Hargus. The fifth article (Herald and News, 22 Oct 1951, p. 1) says Smith was married to Lena Hargus.
First, second, and forth articles require subscription to access; third and fifth articles are available on-line without subscription.Orygun (talk) 03:55, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
@Orygun: I guess so. He had such a long career serving the Klamath Falls community, it's a shame you can't come up with catchy hook wording for his many communal/political activities. Yoninah (talk) 12:35, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah...here’s another possible hook regarding his professiona life as newspaper publisher:
ALT2 ... that in 1903 Oregon state legislator Wesley O. Smith purchased the weekly Klamath Republican before acquiring the Evening Herald newspaper?
Source comes from Herald and News article (22 Oct 1951, p. 1) which is available on-line without subscription.
For the record, I’m fine with any of these hooks…think first one goes well with map; second covers interesting detail of Smith's personal like; and third focuses of his profession as a newspaper publisher.--Orygun (talk) 19:46, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
What about:
ALT3: ... that lumberman-turned-newspaper publisher Wesley O. Smith served two terms in the state legislature, representing what are now six large counties in central Oregon(pictured)? Yoninah (talk) 20:03, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes...like it. Thanks!--Orygun (talk) 23:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. @Bait30: could you review ALT3 please? Yoninah (talk) 23:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
I guess a timber cruiser is a type of lumberman so yes, all the facts of the hook are cited inline and this alt hook is interesting. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 23:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Assuming good faith that there are no plagiarism or copyvio issues with the paywalled sources in the article. Although copyvio probably wouldn't be an issue anyways since most of those were from before 1925. I think on it's own, the hook wouldn't be that interesting. The picture helps a lot though because then you can see just how large those "large counties" are. Fortunately, if the promoter or someone else thinks it's not interesting enough, there are many other things in the article that would make for a good DYK. Bait30 Talk 2 me pls? 17:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
You are correct about the gray tick. I misunderstood what you said, and thought when you mentioned AGFing that you also meant it about the hook fact. I've switched it back to your original (and copied the tick here so as to not confuse promoters). Sorry for the inconvenience. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
