Template talk:The Sopranos

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Fictional universe vs. the series[edit]

After adding the timeline and family tree, I realized what's really needed is to separate links related to the show's fictional universe from those related to the series. All but one of the links in the template (as of 00:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)) are for the fictional universe; the one exception is the episode list. With some reformatting, the episode list could be pulled out and grouped with links to the writers and directors, awards and nominations, and the DVDs. 66.167.137.21 00:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

how come some of the names are in italics? at first, i thought it was because the characters were dead but melfi is alive and has italics and phil and richie are dead and their names aren't italicized —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.146.120.126 (talk) 06:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Bobby Baccalieri[edit]

I've been trying to move Bobby Bacala up to the primary characters section, but I keep getting stopped by a moderator. If Bobby Baccalieri is a larger character than Big Pussy Bonpensiero, yet he is up there and Bobby is not.

Primary characters are based on contracts from the distributor. Most of the time, that means that an actor who is credited with being in the episode, but isn't, is on contract to be credited with being in the episode regardless of whether or not s/he make an appearance. That's what it's based off of, just like other television templates. IMDb is a good source for determining this, as well as billing order (i.e., the order the actors' names appear in the credits). Steve R. Schirripa is only credited with playing Bobby in episodes Bobby appears in, therefore, according to HBO, Schirripa isn't a main cast member, hence… Bobby isn't a primary character. Vincent Pastore is credited in all 26 episodes from seasons one and two as playing Big Pussy Bonpensiero, despite only appearing in 21 of the 26 episodes in the first two seasons. On a more superficial level, Big Pussy Bonpensiero was a main character from the beginning. The fact that Bobby appears in more episodes than him is meaningless, because one can counter-argue that Pussy's character was longer (from the start to finish of the show, despite being killed off in "Funhouse" . Bobby was an add-on character that first appeared in the second episode of Season 2, Do Not Resuscitate. In retrospect, Bobby is not a larger character than Pussy based on the fact that Pussy was always intended to be included in the show, and he continues to haunt Tony, Silvio and Paulie years after his death and seasons after his story arc. Bobby was never a powerful enough character to fit these shoes. All in all, the difference between primary and secondary characters is based on contracting, which is based on fact. If we did it your way, we wouldn't be adhering to WP:Neutral point of view since the division of primary and secondary characters would be based only on opinion. Geeky Randy (talk) 18:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)