Template talk:Tmbox

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Can you put wikitables in these? I can't get it to work, ie:

 {| class="wikitable"
 ! Header 1
 ! Header 2
 | row 1, cell 1
 | row 1, cell 2
 | row 2, cell 1
 | row 2, cell 2

Is there a way? html tables seem to work. thanks, ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 23:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

You would need to escpae the pipe characters with {{!}}, so {| becomes {{{!}}, and |- becomes {{!}}-, etc. Edokter (talk) — 00:55, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


Unless I shortly hear any objections, i am going to make this template substitutable. It is used on talk pages a lot, so the functionality is desirable. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:57, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Why is substitutability advantageous in this template? Tmbox is a display template; it implements the current consensus for the appearance of message boxes. If that consensus changes, so too can the appearance of millions of boxes, with a few careful changes here. There are still thousands of implementations of the previous generation of talkpage message boxes precisely because they were not centralised through a metatemplate like {{tmbox}}, that's not a mistake we want to repeat. So yes, consider this an objection: there is no reason to make this template substitutable because there is no (common) reason to want to substitute it. Happymelon 00:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


Please see centralised discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Article message boxes#Classes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request - option for background colours[edit]

An option for background colours would be nice Face-smile.svg it seems there is no way to do it in the documentation other than substing which on a talk page is bad because it adds to the spam for people --Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 10:21, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

That the background colour is standardised across all templates is precisely the point of this template! Happymelon 10:27, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I actually figured it out and changed it already if you look at with my talk page, of course, style, thanks :) It should probably mention that in the description/documentation for people that don't know CSS ha. Face-smile.svg

Edit request - option for Padding[edit]

Another thing though, is it possible to set the padding currently? I thought it would be padding=whatever in the CSS style but that doesn't appear to do anything for some reason, I am thinking the template probaby needs a separate setting added to it to let people change padding for some reason?

For instance the difference between tmbox:

and table (this is what the New Wikilove button at top of the screen stuff uses at the moment, weirdly - and without centring set to, I just changed that in to make the comparison easier):

Kitten (06) by Ron.jpg A kitteh for you!
Dianna has given you an evil attack kitteh! Evil attack kittehs help promote wiki-love and protect your talk page from trollish elements. Dianna (talk) 15:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

It's more noticable in larger boxes if you compare the padding around the picture in the Wikilove table: [1] to the much smaller padding tmbox uses : [2]

I tried to change with padding style but didn't seem to do anything, not sure what's up with that - thanks for any help Face-smile.svg --Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 11:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

You can use {{fmbox}} for fullwidth boxes. Also, anyone can edit the docs, they are not protected. -- WOSlinker (talk) 11:32, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
ah I was talking about padding, not width Face-smile.svg in CSS padDing is the gap between images/text and the border inside an object (margin is for the gap outside an object) --Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 11:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Tmbox is a table to which the style parameter is applied, and cannot have a padding. Default table cell padding is used. Tmbox has it's padding controlled by the tmbox CSS classes. I think that in the interest of having a standard formatting for all *mbox templates, it is best kept this way. Edokter (talk) — 15:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
If you look at the difference between the padding this template uses and the one the WikiLove function uses as I compared above, it looks to me like the padding underneath and above is missing - it looks slightly wrong Face-smile.svg There is padding to the left but above and below the image it just cuts off suddenly compared ot the WikiLove ne where it's even around all sides of the image like a pictureframe Face-smile.svg
Maybe fix the default padding then if you don't want to give people an option? Face-smile.svg --Mistress Selina Kyle (Α⇔Ω ¦ ⇒✉) 03:11, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
The wikilove box is not a tmbox and has a different structure alltogether. But I see there is a textstyle parameter where you can override the default padding for the text (0.25em 0.9em). Example code added above. How does that look? Edokter (talk) — 10:49, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Switch of mbox templates and category handler to Lua[edit]

I've made a request over at Template talk:Mbox about switching all of the {{mbox}} family templates, plus the {{category handler}} template, to use Lua modules. These templates have millions of transclusions, so I would appreciate comments and some more eyes on the code. Please let me know what you think over at the request page. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:10, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

The proposed changes are now up live - this template has been switched to use Module:Message box. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:57, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


a) Why does the box default to class="plainlinks"? b) How to turn that off? {{Tmbox|plainlinks=no|text=[http://example.com example.com]}} gives:

-- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:01, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Template not visible in mobile view[edit]

The template is not visible in mobile wikipedia when used in talk page.Jinoy Tom Jacob (talk) 16:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

This can be seen, for example from difference between Template:Wikibreak and Template:Semi-wikibreak pages. —⁠andrybak (talk) 00:21, 25 September 2018 (UTC)