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St. Louis Disambiguation

I don't understand your rationale for "St. Louis" redirecting to the city of St. Louis, Missouri. Can you elaborate? There are 27 different alternate articles that an individual could be looking for. Why does this city take precedence? Dabarkey 04:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Crime and Social issues of St. Louis, Missouri

Articles should contain more than a template tag when created. Or else they fall under Criteria for speedy deletion A3 and might be deleted without further notice. Punkmorten 22:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

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Image copyrights

Hi - Can you please indicate why you think the images from http://www.diserio.com/top15-skylines.html (e.g. Image:Tokyoskyline.jpg, Image:Hongkongskyline.jpg, and Image:Shanghaiskyline.jpg) and are OK for uploading to Wikipedia? Did you take these photographs yourself? If not, you must provide some sort of evidence that whoever owns the copyright to these images has licensed them with a free license. Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy. -- Rick Block (talk) 21:38, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi sorry to get back to you so late, I did not read the Wikpedia Image use policy properly in regards to all three images, I in the process of replacing the pictures with images that can be properly used on Wikipedia. Thank you informing me of these faults.Astuishin 00:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)Astuishin

I'm trying to verify the sources of the newer images you've uploaded and can't find them from the links you provided. I don't mean to be a pest about this, but it is very important that images uploaded to Wikipedia have clear (and verifiable) licensing information. Wikipedia's content license is extraordinarily generous - in general, anyone is allowed to use any text from Wikipedia for any purpose, including commercial purposes, so long as they in turn provide the same right to anyone else (copyleft). Images are mostly meant to follow the same principles, which mean they must be originally created by the submitter (who can agree to such a license) or be from some free source. Nearly all images on the internet are not free, and cannot be used at Wikipedia. Images from a forum might be, but unless the creator of the image has said something like "anyone can use this image for any purpose" (and you can specifically point to where this claim is made) I don't think we can accept such images. Is it your belief that the newer versions you've uploaded are indeed free (the creator of the image is OK with anyone using these images for any purpose)? I think that's what you're currently claiming by what you've said on the image description page. Without identifying the creator of the image, it's fairly difficult to verify such a claim. So, can you either identify the creator or identify where the creator's "free for anyone to use for anything" claim might be? Oh, and BTW, if it seems like this is a pretty stringent policy - it is. If you simply didn't understand, that's OK (and we can delete the images you've uploaded). If you don't understand all the image copyright stuff and you want to add images, the safest thing is to not upload anything you find on the web but to upload only photographs you've taken yourself with your own digital camera. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


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Washington University seal & alumni

Hi Astuishin. Thanks for all your work on the list of WU alumni! Where did you find all those names? I started the article a long time ago (under a different article title) and spent awhile combing through the annual Distinguished Alumni awards on the WU website, but you must have found another, better source. Regarding the controversy over the school seal: I'm not sure I know very much about how this works under Fair Use, so I really don't have any knowledge or expertise to lend to the discussion. I'll weigh in briefly, though, on the Talk Page just to say I agree that it should be up there (the Fair Use argument is fairly convincing). I think you might be best off getting this arbitrated if the problem continues. Best. Ropcat 23:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • On another matter: the article used to be called "List of Washington University alumni" or something similar. It got renamed to "List of Washington University people." I'm thinking it should be returned to a name using "alumni" rather than "people." The "people" university articles usually list faculty, alumni, and so on for smaller schools. But this is clearly a list of alumni. Most other schools have such a page (i.e. List of University of Michigan alumni). Do you have any thoughts or objections on renaming the article in this way? Thanks. (I'll post this on the article talk page, too, in case anyone else objects.) Ropcat 23:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Glad you agree on the title change to "List of Washington University alumni." Would you weigh in briefly with that opinion on the talk page for List of Washington University people, just so we can develop a consensus there before changing it? Thanks! Ropcat 00:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll wait a couple days and change it unless there are objections from others. Ropcat 02:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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Also Image:Shanghaiskyline.jpg and Image:Hongkongskyline.jpg. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Rick Block I'm sorry to get back to you so late, and I sorry to have not clarified where I got the pictures of the east Asain cities skyline's from. The exact web page where I found the photos of tokyo skyline- [1] a forum user Sonie took these pictures and I sent a message to the user asking if I could post these pictures on Wikipedia. I don't quite on how to expressed that when placing licensing information about the picture. The Hong Kong and shanghai pictures were from a website I can quite recall and listed as desktop backgrounds. All of the pictures were slightly altered to fix the resolution requirements on Adobe photo shop elements.--Astuishin 02:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Like I mentioned above, copyright status for any pictures uploaded to Wikipedia has to be very clear. I'm assuming you did not take these pictures, which means you cannot grant permission for anyone else to use them (which labeling them as GFDL does). If user Sonie at www.skyscrapercity.com claims to have taken the Tokyo skyline one, formal permission must be obtained (and recorded) as described at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission (an email asking if it's OK to use at Wikipedia is NOT enough - the email has to specifically mention the implications of Wikipedia usage under the GFDL and the email and response have to be forwarded to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org). Even though the others were posted as "desktop backgrounds" at a website, this does not make them legal for use here. In particular, you don't own them so you can't give permission for others to use them (which GFDL does). Really, truly, unless you take a picture yourself or whoever originally took it puts it on a website with a free license of some kind (and uploaded by some random person to a forum is generally not adequate), it's very difficult to obtain the right kind of permission. Wikipedia has had problems with unlicensed images in the past which is one reason so much attention is paid to this now. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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Washington Univ. alumni list article

Hi Astuishin. I wanted to point out that anonymous user 65.246.8.178 continues to add what, to me, seems like a very non-notable name to the list of notable Wash.U. alumni. I'm not sure what steps can be taken in the case of an anonymous user. But maybe you could help me keep the article cleaned up, if you wouldn't mind putting it on your watchlist? Thanks! Ropcat 07:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure Ropcat, I will put the article on my watch list, by way did you check the IP address of the user it could be registered to a wash u student or administrator. Astuishin 01:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Astuishin! I didn't check the IP address but I did put a note on the user's Talk Page (see here), which he or she promptly ignored. Ropcat 20:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Astuishin. Thanks for your edit to the pictures on the WUSTL alumni list. However, I wonder whether Tennessee Williams is the best person to feature in a picture. Although he's probably the most notable on the "arts and literature" list, he is not an alumnus (attended but didn't graduate). I added him a long time ago because it seemed "close enough" to be worth including his name. What do you think? I could go either way on this, but just wanted to raise the question and get your opinion. By the way, our vandal who is intent on including that totally non-notable Triangle Sport Wear executive seems to have taken a break from the vandalism... Ropcat 07:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ropcat I actually agree with you WUSTL should not the focus Williams so you are welcome to remove to the picture if you want.Astuishin 07:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Astuishin. I've introduced a more formal warning at the Talk Page for Hoff728. Thought you'd want to see this as our past warnings haven't slowed down the pace of the vandalism at all. However, by introducing the warning on the user's Talk Page, and by introducing a Final Warning template if the vandalism happens again, we will then be eligible to list the user for blocking by admins. (That is, if I understand the procedures correctly.) Best, Ropcat 02:31, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Ropcat, okay good I was wondering if there was some type of official process for alerting the the administrators about continuing vandalism. I'm pretty sure Hoff728 will ignore your final warning as usual so hopefully a administrator can put some closure to this and expell him as well as block his ip address. Also I thought you might want to inspect this page; Wikipedia:Notable Alumni, it's about a new policy proposed for the Notable Alumni pages, perhaps it will give us more clarity when trying to suppress the other looming vandalism to the alumni page.Astuishin 21:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Astuishin. That user was actually blocked by an administrator today after this remark about me on the article. (I didn't even know the process had taken place until the block was made.) He may be back after the block expires, though. I looked over the new proposed guidelines for Notable Alumni. Generally I think they are good, except I don't agree that any alumni notable enough to have a Wikipedia article is notable enough for a "notable alumni" list. If one glances at the CATEGORY of Washington University Alumni, it is apparent that many articles are only of minor notability and would only clutter up a notable alumni list. Wonder what you think. Ropcat 07:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Edits to WUSTL template

Thanks for your edits to the WUSTL series. They are welcome. Regarding the navigation template-- how is use of the image not fair use? Additionally, why not welcome additions by WUSTL administrators? All of the WUSTL entries need a lot of work . . .

Makes sense about the template. Would you mind providing a link to the disccussion about the WU Seal? I can't seem to find it. I still do not understand you follow up comments about WUSTL administrators. Are you referring to the WU Seal discussion? Please clarify. Lmbstl 06:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Templates at the bottom of WUSTL page

I noticed you removed a nav box. The clump of templates at the bottom of the WUSTL page was precisely the reason I had originally positioned the WUSTL template directly before the "External links" heading. To me, it made logical sense (and looked better) to have it there, sine the box functions as navigation to all WUSTL-related material. Shall we return it to that location? There is no rule saying nav boxes must be directly at the end of an article. We could then return the "Colleges and universities in metropolitan St. Louis" remplate without having such aa mess. Thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lmbstl (talk • contribs) 06:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

I see your point Lmbstl, however I think because this is the WU page any templates created to nav through other WU daughter articles should be a priority, and other more cluttered templates should be set to auto collapse.

If truth be told I am in a slight dispute concerning the placement of community colleges on that nav box. In comparing with other articles community colleges are usually put under public university systems, however that seems to be disputed.Astuishin 10:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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You list a cc-by-sa license for Image:Stlskylinen.jpg, but on the source page at Flikr, it is given a cc-by-nc-nd license, which is very different. If you procured a broader license from the creator for Wikipedia's use, you need to document its grant with specificity. The non-commercial clause of by-nc-nd is incompatible with Wikipedia, and the image, great as it is, may need to be removed. --Kbh3rdtalk 01:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I have no knowledge of or relationship with the author so the image will simple have to be removed.Astuishin 01:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Hyde Park

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WUSTL Project

 Hello, I noticed you've made edits to WUSTL articles or that you are in some way connected to Washington University in St. Louis. I thought you might want to become a member of Washington University in St. Louis WikiProject . We've recently built the project page and started a drive to improve articles in the WUSTL series. Please take a look to edit an article or add one of your own. Once an article's status has been agreed upon, feel free to stop by and lend a hand in getting it to featured article status. Hope you can participate! 
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Thanks for joining WP:WUSTL! Feel free to add the template {{UserWUSTLproject}} to your user page. --Lmbstl 10:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
By the way, thanks for finding the box to add to the Francis Field article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lmbstl (talk • contribs) 16:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

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Kentucky is Southern

I noticed your argument on Midwestern map page, that Kentucky is not Midwestern/is Southern and user 70-68 rambling on and on about his sources. Believe me this guy doesn't pull that crap on me in our debate on the Southern talk page. For every 1 source he has provided during our debate I've provided 3 and that's not even mentioning that 70% of his sources were weather maps LOL. Anyway I was hoping that you will join in our debate on my side to form a concensus on the text in our article involing Kentucky. Please respond on my page Louisvillian 17:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, please post when you're ready Louisvillian 03:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

WUSTL Stuff

I like your replacment image on the UserProjectWUSTL template. Also, I noticed you returned an image to the info box on the John M. Olin School of Business page. I removed it because I do not think that image is in use by WUSTL anymore. It seems that the John M. Olin School of Business does not really have a logotype. Maybe you know somehting I don't, but I think the image on the article John M. Olin School of Business is a 1980s remant... --Lmbstl 10:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, about the logo-- I don;t know if you have caught this discussion here. --Lmbstl 11:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it is ok to use the approved WUSTL logo-- it was uploaded by clyerla without restriction (of course, as long as it is not defamed in any way, which we are not interested in doing). I would prefer to remove the outdated business school logo-- it doesn't seem that the business school uses a special logo any longer; it simply appends its name to the WUSTL images. Your thoughts?
(By the way, the WUSTL project user box looks much better. Thanks for the edits). --Lmbstl 18:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks for your work on this. But I am unsure what you wish me to do. Duke and Ohio Wesleyan are the ones that seem the most glaring by their absence. Both are still VERY MUCH United Methodist, despite objections by some wikipedians. Yes, to put it mildly I was "out talked." Some people seem to have so much time to spend on various issues, and so verbously. I just can't keep up. But if you want a vote to return Duke and Ohio Wesleyan and any others which are Methodist schools, I will be glad to add my tupence. Just let me know. God bless. Pastorwayne 11:55, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate the time you are taking with this. I hope you will not find the same resistence I did. This whole wikipedia thing seems odd to me. For the most part, it is good and I enjoy it. But this "fact by voting" bothers me some. People can vote to get rid of something, and majority rules, no matter what is fact or what is helpful, etc. I have found this in terms of categories, esp. But here, too: OWU is definately Methodist. But just because a majority says it is not, it gets excluded. Funny. Anyhow, thanks for what you are doing. And indeed, God bless you! Pastorwayne 18:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, GBHEM is accountable to the General Conference of the U.M. Church. It is one of our General Agencies. I've noted the discussions about OWU especially. I really cannot understand it. Ohio Wesleyan, though surely not AS connected to the Methodist Church as it once was (it was one of the premier schools of our denomination back in the 1800's) still very much IS a U.M. School. We have five of them in Ohio: Ohio Northern, Otterbein, Baldwin Wallace, Mount Union and OWU. They are all STILL U.M.!! I do not understand the passion that some seem to have about asserting that it is not. Anyhow, I appreciate what you are doing! Pastorwayne 01:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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Dear Astuishin,

Burtchaell's book "The dying of the Light" has a very extensive chapter on the progression and the eventual demise of the relationship between Ohio Wesleyan and the UMC over the past 150 years. If you would like to be very particular about the meaning of the association and the list that you have found on the web, I know you may run into issues of notability, as some have already suggested on the template's talk page. I know the issue will be, as it has been, controversial among many WP editors. Thank you for your time! LaSaltarella 22:12, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the message, Astuishin! I appreciate it! I can point you to the relevant pages in the book. I am in the process of getting the OWU article in the FAC process where its stability is essential to its successful nomination, therefore I do not wish to get into any drama. I appreciate you following up! LaSaltarella 23:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Astuishin, thank you for the compliments regarding the Ohio Wesleyan article. I have put a lot of time in it and solicited help from other WP editors, so I hope that it will pass through the FAC process. I am glad you understand that any premature insertions that have generated discussions on its page, Duke University's page and UPS may compromise its stability. Thanks again for your time! LaSaltarella 23:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Recent edits to Columbia, Missouri

Hey, I reverted your edit regarding nicknames on the Columbia, Missouri page. "The Athens of Missouri" is a historical nickname for the city as specified by William Swiztler's A History of Columbia and Boone County and many other local history sources. If you have any questions or comments you know where to find me. Thanks. Grey Wanderer | Talk 15:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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recent edits to st louis. you reverted my edits to incorrect information. perhaps you should check facts before you revert edits.


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New WUSTL Shiled

Have you seen what Cylera's changed image to? It looks a promotional image out of a magazine... big stamped not for print use. The mouseover was fine & this is ridiculous. caz | speak 03:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't feel we should be forced to use scanned photos when we are clearly in fair use to use the shield. The copyright info. is on the info. page, just like every other image on Wikipedia, and this is more sufficient to show how it belongs to. What I think is needed is bar WUSTL from editing till they act rationally. caz | speak 05:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
At least their registered user, Cylera, who repitedly makes changes to the page not only without census, but often ignoring any that has previously consisted. caz | speak 05:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
But what? If she weren't a WUSTL representative there would be no hesitance over the matter. She shouldn't get a free ride for her bad behavior & non cooperation just because she gets her paycheck from the institution. caz | speak

23:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I reverted the shield to your earlier one w/o the disgusting text. Let's see how long it takes Cylera to change it back. Any news on the blocking her from editing the article side? caz | speak 02:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I just reverted the shield for the third time. Any idea where we're at? caz | speak 23:50, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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