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David Hunt (planter)

Hello. Do you have enough info to create a page for the Woodlawn Plantation and the Cavinton Plantation? Also, do you know if he is somewhat related to H. L. Hunt? I have always wondered...Zigzig20s (talk) 04:52, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Great. Looking forward to it, even if you start with a stub or short start, as long as it's fully referenced...Not sure we could find pictures, but it's worth a try. Btw, would you also create the Woodlawn Plantation in Claiborne County, Mississippi?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:28, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Also, can you please add some referenced info about Oakland college? You mentioned it in your edit summary, but not in the article. How involved was he, etc.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:33, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

That would be ideal...do you live in Mississippi? If so, which county in case there are pictures you could take? Btw, there is a picture of him here, but I am not sure if it is copyright-free or not.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:48, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I think you would lose the copyright, yes, but that means anybody (including yourself) could later use those pictures in a book, etc. I believe this picture would be better than nothing, until we find someone at the academy who is able to take another picture... It's up to you. I find David Hunt's life fascinating, and I think there is more to it--especially peripheral articles about the plantations and other family members, as it relates to Presbyterianism, but also other planters, etc. Great to unearth hidden history.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

The main difference between a book and Wikipedia is that on Wikipedia, you can't add "original research." In other words, you can only add referenced info: info that's already been published in a reliable book or journal article, etc. Now, a non-fiction book wold use sources as well, but the whole point of publishing a book is to bring something new to the table: add previously unpublished info about a specific topic...info which had no sources previously.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:10, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Btw, can you please add a reference at the end of each sentence for this paragraph? "He was among the largest financial supporters of Oakland College, which was located about four miles from Rodney, Mississippi. Over the years he gave a total of about $175,000 to the college. He was a trustee of the College for years. His sons, Abijah, George, Andrew and Dunbar graduated from Oakland College.[1] Oakland's financial resources were destroyed by the Civil War. Consequently, the college was sold to the state of Mississippi in 1871 to form Alcorn State University. The money from the sale was used to form Chamberlain-Hunt Academy in Port Gibson, Mississippi. As a result, Chamberlain-Hunt Acacemy was named after the Presbyterian minister Reverend Jeremiah Chamberlain (1794-1851) who founded Oakland College and David Hunt who was one of Oakland College's most generous financial supporters."Zigzig20s (talk) 22:07, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Great progress. Congratulations! I wonder if any of his plantations are still standing at all? Btw, I created Abijah Hunt's page earlier today.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:13, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, silly me. I'm the one who created Lansdowne (Natchez, Mississippi). Looks like Woodlawn is not listed? And yes, you could, although obviously a book should bring more to the table than simply aggregating what others have already published. A book would include original research. That's the main difference I think. But anybody can re-use references as long as they are fully cited each time, to buttress original research. For example in my academic work, some of my articles are cited by others in their articles--that's the basis of research, but obviously their articles may draw upon my research and then add their own original research... Wikipedia is simply an aggregator of previous research, although a very good place to start I think. Perhaps one day we will cite your book as well.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Btw, this painting could probably be used as a picture in the infobox. The only thing is it has to be uploaded on Wikimedia Commons--but I think it must be in the public domain like this one for example.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:28, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

If you are able to use the references used on the USGenWeb directly, that would be better. However, the info you added is not controversial or highly questionable, so it is not the end of the world. Also some people don't like FindAGrave, because anyone can edit it...I find it useful for birth and death dates and locations, but I try not to use the text as a reference. Now, if you publish the USGenWeb article in a newspaper or academic journal (or the magazine of a historical society like the Mississippi Historical Society), that would be different. I would encourage you to do that. (You could try e-mailing the editor of this or even this with your USGenWeb article--you can always remove that article from that website I would imagine, so you could tell him you'll get it removed if they publish it perhaps.) Also to answer your question, the reason the webpages of UT Austin and LSU are reliable references is because those are reputable research institutions and they wouldn't publish falsehoods (at least we hope not!).Zigzig20s (talk) 14:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think your USGenWeb project could get published like that, but with good editing, perhaps. Have you been published in academic journals before?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:50, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

So I think it's fine for now, but if you want to add more info, please use another reference (from a book or journal, etc.).Zigzig20s (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Btw, I wonder if David Hunt went to Princeton or another college in NJ before he moved to MS. Also wanted to mention that he might be connected to Thomas Affleck (planter) through Mary Hunt Affleck (two pages I created).Zigzig20s (talk) 00:10, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Also just created Alexander Calvit, of possible interest to you. He was from Mississippi--the Calviton Plantation may be a connection. Looks like the Calvits were a prominent Southern planter family, but will have to unearth this history.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:38, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

If you want to create a page on Thomas Calvit, please do it. I feel I don't have enough good references for that. Also forgot to mention that it would be useful to know who David Hunt's parents were (names and dates). It's a bit strange that he got his inheritance from his uncle, not his parents--perhaps other siblings did. Also, it looks like Abijah Hunt never got married--I wonder why, for such an eligible man? Finally, it would be useful to know the names of the parents of each of David Hunt's wives, for the dowry. Btw, I also wonder who the other eleven millionaires in Natchez were. Anyway, enough for now. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:02, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for your edits on Lansdowne (Natchez, Mississippi). I am looking forward to more article from you about related plantations and Hunt's illustrious relatives.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Levin R. Marshall and Louis Joseph Bahin

FYI. New articles I created today: Levin R. Marshall and Louis Joseph Bahin.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:42, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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Do you plan on editing again soon? It would be great to work on a few more articles with you. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:42, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Homewood Plantation

I'd like to accept your draft and move it to mainspace, but I am not sure how to do this.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:10, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't have the patience for admin. I've never used drafts. Sometimes I start a userpage and only move it to mainspace later if I need more time to do more research, but usually I just dive in. Let me know if you'd like to work on other plantation. Sounds like William L. Balfour should have an article, but are there enough references from books and articles?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:48, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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It would be great to create an article about the Woodlawn Plantation. Do you have access to many references?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:14, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

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I've moved Concord (Natchez, Mississippi) to mainspace. Perhaps you could expand it. Not sure if there is a picture to be found as well...Zigzig20s (talk) 16:13, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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