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My introduction to you[edit]

Greetings Wikipedian/random internet traveller. I am MM, or, Matticusmadness. Doer of all things helpful (that I can find), destroyer of vandals (to the extent that a non-admin can do that) and pending the obliteration of a few insubordinate personal attackers all around well meaning guy who's been finding his way around the wiki doing what he can to maintain the peace, in collaboration with multiple other users and Administrators I work to ensure that my corner of Wikipedia is running effectively and usefully.

Even though I try my best I may end up making mistakes. If I have goofed, please leave a message at the bottom of the page. If we're getting nowhere then your best 'higher up' go-to guy would be my adopter and WikiFriend Yunshui who can sort literally any Wikipedia problem that I may cause. Please ensure that you attempted to fix the problem with myself before contacting him, he's busy enough as is.

Cheers, and have a good day. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 19:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Double vote?[edit]

It appears that you may have placed two votes on the Megan Stammers AfD page, please could you clarify and correct if this is the case - many thanks Markdarrly (talk) 14:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

You can delete it by going into "Edit" and then add your comments to the original vote that you castMarkdarrly (talk) 10:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

It was me guv!![edit]

You did "bump" into me at the Stammers page, what can I do to be of assistance??Markdarrly (talk) 11:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking for someone to make the Megan Stammers page On Wikinews. Do you think it would be too late for that? I'd do it myself if I had the right idea of how to construct a professional news article like Wikinews is full of, but to be honest I think i'm still a few pages short of the right idea. And as for it already being there I checked that.

I could also do with knowing of a page for making a good citation if you know one. One that explains making a citation with details next to it rather than the link alone, can you help with that please? MIVP (talk) 08:17, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I think the best time to be writing a news article about this incident is after Forrest has been dragged back to the UK and made a plea in the court. After that time, more info will become known, as of now, all we really know is that he legged it with a love sick kid! After he is back in blighty and more is known, i'll write it with you if want.

As for the Good cite bit, if you click on the HELP icon on the bar on the left of the screen, it will bring up HELP CONTENTS, and inside you will find a direct link to CITING SOURCES. When you first open the help page, you may have to click on the SHOW tab at the right hand side. Hope that helps. Markdarrly (talk) 08:43, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
No problem, you know where I am if you need any further info, just tap the keys!!! Markdarrly (talk) 08:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

References on a user page[edit]

{{helpme}} I'm looking to get <[ref]> to work on the User Page.

Hello, The tags to use are <ref></ref> and {{reflist}}. Is that what you wanted to know? Patchy1 11:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Partially, but i've tried putting { {Reflist} } next to the <[ref> and at the top of the page but the message was still showing. The bit about the template makes me wonder if i'm putting it on the completely wrong page. Any ideas? MIVP (talk) 11:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Note: I have moved your reply back to your talk page so the discussion is easier to follow. Use colons to indent here and {{Talkback|Matticusmadness}} on my page to notify me.
A typical reference will look like this:
Text to be referenced<ref>Reference text</ref>

If you like I can edit your userpage to include the above example. -- Patchy1 11:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Close enough, I've figured it out now so thanks. MIVP (talk) 11:41, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
I was part way through typing the above entry when you posted. If you need anymore help, contact me anytime. -- Patchy1 11:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Admin page[edit]

To be honest, I can't quite remember when I registered my account. And the User Creation log seems to have forgotten who I am... or at least when I showed up here. caknuck ° needs to be running more often 03:36, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks 4 the strawberrys!!![edit]

Just one minor complaint-where is the cream?Markdarrly (talk) 19:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for the tea, i'll get cream for both of them!!!!!;-)) Markdarrly (talk) 08:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)


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The Userboxes are driving me crazy. Could someone please sort them so there's 4 to each line? I'm no good with coding so edit their sizes if needed. Yes check.svg Done, give me a shout if it needs tweaking. Yunshui  10:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage[edit]

Given the enthusiastic vandalism currently affecting your userpage, I've protected it from editing by IPs and unregistered users. If you want the protection lifted or extended at any point (it's currently set to expire in about three weeks), let me know. Cheers, Yunshui  13:19, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism[edit]

Yes, WP:AIV is the right place, if the vandal has been sufficiently warned - see the box marked "Important!" at the head of that page. The reports should be in the form {{IPvandal|IP address}}, not just [[IPaddress]] - there are examples on the page, visible after you click "Edit", which you can copy.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

ClueBot and user pages[edit]

Hello! I have posted it on the talk page of ClueBot. Regards···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 19:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Page protection[edit]

Given recent activity by CardinalBadboy (who isn't blocked yet, but is only one more inappropriate edit away), I'm willing to reconsider your request to semi-protect your user talkpage. Still want me to do that? Yunshui  11:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Your wish, etc. I've set the protection at three months. If you need it lifting at any point, say the word. Yunshui  12:31, 22 October 2012 (UTC)


Don't think I've come across you before. That was a very sensible answer you gave to User:BecWaters, which I've added to. Didn't really need an admin - any regular patroller could have confirmed your remarks, but newcomers do seem to think that admins have a lot more authority than we do. (Comes in handy, sometimes...) If you're keen on becoming an admin, don't let people know. It won't help. Get in some content creation, be seen around in as many places as possible (without being obvious or pushy about it), be good at explaining things and cleaning up messes (or at least recognising a mess and finding someone who knows more to mop it up or untangle it), don't edit war (even in a good cause), don't get blocked and don't use sockpuppets, keep your edit count evenly spread out, attend RfAs and comment sensibly (without piling on), shadow people (there are a number of people who watch my talk page, for example), and keep it all up for a minimum of 18 months without getting bored, and someday, my son, you too could be an admin.... (BTW don't copy my style of writing - it probably wouldn't work. Find your own style, and vary it to the different clients.) (PS I do advise getting Twinkle. I did after I got my mop, having done 12,000 odd edits totally manually. It's not like Huggle or some of the other things - it's just a short cut rather than an automated tool. It's a lot easier to click tick boxes than to remember a load of templates with subst: in them. It won't do anything you don't want it to. And you can still do your talk page spiel manually.) Peridon (talk) 18:10, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Greetings and thank you Peridon. I was just trying to do what I believe any good Wikipedian should do. Allow me to give you a little background to my WP Motives, I set up an account on Wikipedia with intention of keeping my school's IP Address out of trouble. With my position as a prefect within the school I can keep close ties to those in the technical department who will be able to determine which student does any Wikipedia vandalism. It's worked well so far but there's always people who think they can flip the net so I must be ever alert. As for newcomers thinking that Admins have more authority i'd say i'm semi-newcomer but I still believe that. Even though I have seen Bureaucrats and read about Stewards I still look up to the Admins as the people who will always be the protectors of Wikipedia when we users fail.
I believe that a lot of newcomers mess up their first page because the rule of sources is not explained simply enough, that was what I was doing with User:BecWaters, I haven't jumped into my own first article yet because I don't know of anything with significant enough media coverage to be article worthy, I have considered starting an article for my school but it fails the criteria straight up (independent sources, only got 1) plus i'll be running a block risk being part of the organisation that i'm making a page on. Any suggestions? Perhaps the page that discusses sources could do with a simplified explanation of how they work like I did? it could save a lot of pages and time. If you think I could have a good shot at making it easier for people to understand then kindly link me towards the correct page, thank you.
As for your suggestions towards becoming an Administrator I thank you greatly for your suggestions and will keep them in mind. I have that userbox mainly because I wish to be able to help those who need it and block those who deserve it. perhaps you can help me out with two things please? Firstly is there any chance User:CHCS06 could be mistaken for a sockpuppet of me? he works with me in a lesson / class so he was motivated to make an account and since most of my contributions come from the same IP Checklist could make a false assumption. Secondly are you any good with coding? This Wikipedian originally did the coding for my user page's userboxes to put them to 4 on a row but i'm looking to set them in a scroll bar fashion now, I'm thinking 4 to a line and 3 lines down if you get what I mean. As for getting Twinkle so be it, you're the experienced one, i'll look into it.
Thanks for all the ideas and feedback. It's users and Admins like you that are helping me become the use to Wikipedia that I wish to be ^_^ MIVP - (I can haz Cheezburger?) 19:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
CHCS06 would only be considered a sock if there were cause to investigate, that is, if you were making the same edits to get round WP:3RR, !voting the same way in the same discussions, etc. He hasn't edited yet. Your school address is blocked for six months (anonymous editors and account creation blocked), so you shouldn't have any trouble in that direction. Registered accounts made off site or pre-block can edit - obviously... As to the user boxes, I had the same trouble. Three people tried, and the last one succeeded. Can't remember who, but they mightn't still be around anyway. Coding is more the term for making bots and little twiddly things that get put in obscure places to affect the way things work. Chasing userboxes round the page is more like formatting. I tend to stick to cruelly deleting articles and sympathetically (or rudely, as occasion suggests) explaining why. You could try the Village Pump (Technical bit) (Wikipedia has some strangely named things - we even have a policy relevant to sockpuppets called WP:DUCK) - which you will find a link in a box of goodies on my /links subpage. (Not the DUCK.) There they deal with bugs and complaints about popups and how to get things to go away. Userboxes should be easy for them. That /links page might lead you to some of the darker recesses of Wikipedia. Don't join in until you've got more experience, and cautiously then. Peridon (talk) 20:21, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
PS You're quite right about the sources - but the real problem is getting the people to understand the concept of notability as the word is used in Wikipedia. If they don't understand notability, they won't worry about RS. I must get round to an essay on it. Peridon (talk) 20:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Sonic X Universe[edit]

Hi, I'm Sarah. I just wanted to let you know that I removed the CSD tag from Sonic_X_Universe because the content of the page doesn't meet the criteria . I left a message on the article talk page as well. If you still think it should be deleted feel free to nominate it for deletion at AFD. Also, the deletion tags usually go on the article page not the talk page. Thanks. Sarahj2107 (talk) 02:35, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


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Just stopping by to attempt to express my gratitude for the barnstar I got, it was a surprise I greatly appreciated, thank you ever so much! Regards, Nettrom (talk) 15:45, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixing Sinebot edits[edit]

Not that I'm fussed one way or the other, but is it really a worthwhile use of your time to go through SineBot's edits "correcting" them? What you're doing is kind of the reason the automated bot exists in the first place... Carry on by all means if it gives you any satisfaction; I'm fairly sure we don't have any policies against it - it's just a bit odd... Yunshui  14:30, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Help request[edit]

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I would be highly grateful if someone could leave me the coding for aligning text into the middle of the page. Just leave it in some <nowiki> markup and I should be able to figure it out. While we're at it can I be taught how to apply redirect to pages? MIVP - Allow us to be of assistance to you. (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 22:20, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

<center>centered text</center>
{{center|centered text}}
Hope this helps. -- Patchy1 22:32, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Woops I didn't read the last bit, to make a redirect, you replace ALL content in an article with #REDIRECT [[Destination Article]]. Is that what you were asking? -- Patchy1 22:36, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes that covers it, thank you very much. i've noticed this is the second time that you've helped me. I'm thinking about whether I should drop you a barnstar or whether I should wait until you have helped me a third time. MIVP - Allow us to be of assistance to you. (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 22:41, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I was away for the weekend, time off all round. I haven't really had many barnstars, but I am happy to continue helping wherever I can no matter what :) -- Patchy1 22:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for the humor barnstar--Mjs1991 (talk) 05:41, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Third Help Request[edit]

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So i've tried putting my head around it but i'm going to need some help with sorting out the userboxes into categories. Can I get a few contributors to suggest a few categories that different userboxes can go into? Take a look at my user page's userboxes then make your suggestions here. Thank you kindly. Please let there be at least 5 suggestions for userbox categories before tagging this as helped. If you're confused what I mean by 'by category' I mean what they can be organised into such as My WikiProject Room. MIVP - Allow us to be of assistance to you. (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 11:43, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

There a userboxes for users who are addicted to userboxes, I don't like them... not important - User:The Raven's Apprentice/Userboxes/User UBXlove (transclusions) is one of them, look at the userpages that transclude it, most of them have categories you could use, such as User:NeonMerlin/boxes and User:Frexe. There are other userboxes like that one, about being addicted to userboxes, the transclusions list of those ones would help you too, but I can't seem to find them at the moment. -- Patchy1 12:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Are there any userboxes you haven't transcluded to your userpage?
I'd suggest the following divisions: Personal (who you are), Wikipedia-related (what you're involved in here), Interests (what you like), Fun (everything else). Yunshui  12:35, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
You've both been fantastic at giving me ideas for how to sort them out, I think i've got enough here to get them into categories therefore i've marked it as 'helped'. Patchy, as always your help was great but Yunshui made it clearest. Anyone for food barnstars? I've had something of a relaxed day today and am feeling generous but throwing ideas around in general isn't really full-on barnstar material, not that I don't appreciate the help, I really do so thanks. MIVP - Allow us to be of assistance to you. (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 14:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Hate Everyone[edit]

Hi. I have undone your {{db-band}} tag on this article as it is not appropriate. My rationale is on the talk page. I would recommend either proposing deletion via WP:PROD or boldly redirecting to Say Anything (band). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:07, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't take offense that you're trying to do this cleanup. However, like the person said above, a speedy isn't the right thing in the case of an article with this long a history and this many edits. Thanks for your work on the Wiki! --Mblumber (talk) 16:40, 29 January 2013 (UTC)


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A friendly note about dead references, link rot, and prodding[edit]

Hi, Matticusmadness, and thanks very much for your many positive contributions to Wikipedia. I noted that at Jim Giles (meteorologist) you deleted the article's one existing source because the URL no longer worked, and then proposed deletion for the article on the basis that it had no sources. Please keep in mind that there is no requirement that sources be available on line. Also, rather than deleting dead links, editors are requested either to try to replace or fix them, or to mark them for future attention. In this case, for example, I was quickly able to find a new URL for that source, as well as a number of other sources for the article. Please have a look at WP:DEADREF and WP:LINKROT for more on how to handle dead links.

On a related subject, please note that the proposed deletion process outlined at WP:Proposed deletion ("prodding") is a summary procedure intended for articles whose deletion is expected to be "uncontroversial". Many of the articles you've proposed for deletion look to me like they deserve it, but some don't: an example is Líneas Aéreas Federales, which is on its face, a notable topic (a controversial national government entity in Argentina) and for which there are a whole bunch of Spanish-language sources already showing at the Spanish Wikipedia version of the article. Before I propose an article for deletion (either via WP:PROD or via the more formal process of WP:Articles for deletion), I generally look for sources through searches on Google News (including the Archives section) and Google Books, and if it's a subject from a non-English speaking country, I check to see if there's a better-sourced version of the article in the appropriate language version of Wikipedia.

Thanks again for your many valuable contributions here, and happy editing. Regards, --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Wow, WP just keeps on surprising me with new things. I can explain my actions however. The thing is most of the time that i'm on WP i'm stuck with 'Strict Safesearch' on Google so searches for sources can prove to be harder to do.
To be honest with you Arx while doing my running around dropping PRODs all over these articles I hadn't picked up the 'uncontroversial' thing, i'll bear that in mind so thanks for that. I'll start trying to decide an AfD article from a PROD article and well another wikipedian can just tell me if I goof up. Thanks for the ideas on where else to look for sources mind you. If you've looked at my user page you'll notice I have my 'Source Search Analysis' listed, I really need to get back to that.
Thank you for your suggestions for improving my ability to assist the encyclopaedia. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 10:03, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your consideration in suggesting a renaming for that attack account; to tell you the truth, I'd be perfectly fine leaving it as is, as it's kind of a silly name anyway, and also sort of a perverse honor to finally get a customized stalker after all this time.  :-) Best, --Arxiloxos (talk) 06:52, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


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if anyone would be willing to let me know the coding for changing the font size and font color that would be great. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 19:10, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The font size and colour of what? In general, you can accomplish that with span parameters; for example, this is big red text. m.o.p 19:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I can pick up what i'm looking for in the edit section, generally the <> coding. Thank you. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 19:45, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Talk page refactoring[edit]

Hi. Please don't change other people's talk page comments, as you did here. Doing so is contrary to the guidelines and can be very confusing. Thanks. Rivertorch (talk) 20:15, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Alright I took a look at TPO and fair enough at the editing the comments by users however what about the editing of the 'preceding unsigned comment' stuff Sinebot leaves? In my book that's really just there as a placeholder for somebody to later delete leaving just the signature there and I have in the past heard from An Admin that there's no rules against removing Sinebot's 'unsigned' text. [1] "I'm fairly sure we don't have any policies against it". Besides that Sinebot is... well... a bot so it's unlikely to irritate them.
Also I apologize if I at all come across as rude. I understand that you are just trying to point me in the right direction. i'm about 5-10 minutes out of a failed attempt to cheer a friend up is all so i'm a bit troubled. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 22:21, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
As far as I know, Yunshui is correct: there's no explicit rule against removing the Sinebot wording. He did say it was "a bit odd". Now, "odd" isn't necessarily a bad thing, but in this case it might not be a very good thing, and here's why. Removing the wording gives the impression that the users actually have signed comments that they haven't signed. I can think of a couple contexts where that could be actually misleading (they're fairly esoteric, but they do exist), but the main advantage of Sinebot sigs is that they tell us at a glance that we're looking at comments from newbies. This can be very helpful in terms of knowing how to respond (or whether to respond at all). And when a newbie returns to check on the discussion, he or she sees what Sinebot did and gets this really cool, subtle hint: Hmm, I didn't sign my post. I'd better do that next time. Anyway, look at it this way: Sinebot is programmed to do exactly what it does. If its creators (and the community) wanted it simply to fake a signature and time stamp, then it would be programmed to do that instead.
Btw, nothing you've said seems the slightest bit rude, and I hope your friend is okay. Incidentally, you're the first person I've ever known to self-revert on my talk page after leaving a talkback. Major kudos for that, and if I may be so bold, I'll say it indicates way too much clue to be spending your precious editing time mopping up after a bot. If you like working with talk pages, one thing you might try instead is catching the unsigned posts that Sinebot misses. Quite a few fall through the cracks, and Template:Unsigned lets you do manually what the bot does automatically. I use it frequently. Rivertorch (talk) 07:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

A pie for you![edit]

Also you spelt "Tilde" as "Tidles" in the blue bar above. Tildes are Tilde, "Tiddles" is a pet cat =P
Good day Jenova20 (email) 13:43, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you kindly sir, I always thought 'tidles' was the correct spelling. Also that pie went nicely with lunch, heh heh. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 14:33, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

No problemo Jenova20 (email) 14:57, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

By the way i'm looking over your sandbox articles, I found something for 'Homosexuality in Uganda' and i'm sure Lord Sugar criticises the Daily Mail in one of his books. Unfortunately i'm busy atm and don't have the book on hand but i'll check when I can. See what you can dig up in the meantime. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 15:01, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the contribution to User:Jenova20/Homophobia in the media. It was very welcome!
Regarding the Daily Mail - so many people criticize it that i doubt Alan Sugar's opinion is actually very notable. Still it depends what he said i suppose. Thanks for the help Jenova20 (email) 15:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Assessments for McLaren[edit]

Hi Matticusmadness. I've assessed McLaren as 'C' class for WP:SCR, but I haven't assigned an Importance rating because WP:SCR doesn't assign Importance ratings. Likewise WikiProject:British Motorsport doesn't assign either Class or Importance ratings; articles are just tagged as being within the project's scope. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 01:23, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Palcomix userfy request[edit]

Yes check.svg Done to User:Matticusmadness/Palcomix. JohnCD (talk) 22:07, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Input Social Market Economy[edit]

Hello Matticusmadness, you have given your input on the discussion of a possible lead. To finally find a consensus version (almost) everyone can agree upon there is a (hopefully) final attempt at Talk:Social_market_economy#working_on_Lead_consensus to make a one for all version. When we have a consensus version we can approach Jayron32 to unblock the article. I whant to invite you to probably make changes on that final version and finally give a thumb up or down. --Pass3456 (talk) 20:29, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sunnyvale High School (California)[edit]

I received a message from YOU regarding a proposal to delete the above mentioned article. It makes no sense. First it claims the article is unsourced as a justification for its deletion. The article has two sources already added, plus an external link to the Alumni Association. Besides, this is not a BLP. There are no grounds for removal of this article. Fortunately, I do not find anything attached to the article that suggests proceedings have taken place, just the message to my talk page. Please do not pursue this. Please do not pursue proposed deletion of any article like this. If you have a problem with articles that look like this, I would suggest you re-evaluate your standards for proposing deletion. Find another activity to try to positively add to the wikipedia project instead. Trackinfo (talk) 20:35, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I just noted another editor removed your PROD on the same grounds that it was senseless. Trackinfo (talk) 20:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Under AGF i'm going to assume you're confused thinking that I tagged this thing under a BLPPROD, the edit summary Twinkle left clearly states that it was a regular PROD, also if you would kindly check the Page History you will see that who DePRODed it added sources, it was not pointless at the time of its adding, Don't worry, we've both made mistakes here. Just think of it as a two sided learning experience :) MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 08:32, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

First I should clarify my BLP reference. We have the Unsourced BLP commandment to protect wikipedia from liability reporting incorrect information about living people. That is why (even though I don't agree with the harsh penalty) we allow deletion of an unsourced article. This is about a dead (or more correctly, defunct) school. There is no liability and thus no need for the rushed (as you proposed) harsh penalty. Even if this had been a totally fraudulent article, there is no reason for a rush to judgement. Since it is obviously not fraud, you could have done a little research of your own, to solve your sourcing issue, to protect the article. So the issue I have here is beyond protecting this article, is to ask you to reevaluate the way you seek to PROD, seek to delete wikipedia content, particularly on a subject you obviously know nothing about. Before you attack, research and learn. You might find fraud here somewhere, but I suspect it will be rare. Instead you'll find well meaning articles, that should be improved and protected. Trackinfo (talk) 09:32, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Ah now I follow. If you look on my talk page above I was told it's a good idea to only PROD Uncontroversial Topics. Judging by your reply i'm failing that? MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 09:42, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, sorry. You got a little of my venting toward other people who mindlessly try to delete. Please don't be like them. As a principle, a little research on your part before you PROD goes a long way and saves needless trouble. Trackinfo (talk)

No problem, you're the pro (even if you did cause an upset at ANI 3 years ago) in this conversation. If there's anything i've learned about Wikipedia it's that it's a learning experience. Have you ever heard Son of Man by Phil Collins? In learning you will teach, and in teaching you will learn, we're doing that here on Wikipedia, we're teaching and learning by working to improve our encyclopedia. Anyway I figure you're UK and either working or in school so i'll shut up and let you get on with things, have a good day :) MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 11:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I've been outspoken, no doubt. And I get touchy when someone goes after an article (albeit a stub) that I created, about a school I have actually visited, with alumni I actually know. Its all a learning experience. I've learned more from wikipedia than I ever could have taught. But you've obviously seen the wars I've been through to try to protect the information we have here. When something is removed from the public's view on someone else's senseless whim, that is equivalent with censorship and prevents the knowledge we have here from being passed down to other readers and future generations. Trackinfo (talk) 20:04, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Did you ever consider becoming a teacher? Because really i'd think you'd make a great one. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 20:10, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

"Saori Minami" Article[edit]

Hi there!

I just edited "Saori Minami" article on Wikipedia by adding a secondary source (link) for information. I noticed that you have edited the same articel a month ago as well. Please feel free to verify and correct my mistakes if there is any. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sushioncsc104 (talkcontribs) 16:02, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

My RfB[edit]

Hi there. Per your note, I'm letting you know that I've went ahead and answered all but one of the questions, which I will get to tomorrow. I was out all day so hadn't noticed the slew that came in until just a bit ago. Wizardman 02:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[edit]

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Speedy deletion declined: Oton, Iloilo[edit]

Hello Matticusmadness. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Oton, Iloilo, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: previous AfD deletion was an article about a different subject. The redirect Oton had been hijacked for an article about an "upcoming" video game console, and that is what Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oton was about. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

User warnings[edit]

Hi there. In regards to this user, I blocked him/her for a bit as the attacks got personal, but I wanted to leave you a note regarding your own behavior there. This edit at the end of last month by you was not appropriate, and was entirely baiting the user. His/her conduct afterward was not appropriate, but in the future please don't WP:BITE and don't use edit summaries to make unnecessary comments. Thanks, ~ Amory (utc) 16:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay granted I had a bit more fun than I should have had knowing the user was on the way to getting a block, i'll try not to screw my own end of the baton in the future. I think it was last lesson of the day or something when that IP did that vandalism to PlayStation 3 so I was looking for something to do. What can I say, I see Vandalism Only IPs and Sockpuppets as on the same level in terms of block worthiness ^^' I'll keep your advice in mind. Looking at this guy i'll have another one for AIV in a minute mind you. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 16:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for being so understanding. Don't forget that IP addresses can change, so a vandalous IP in December could be a productive one in January. ~ Amory (utc) 16:21, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
While you're here Amory we have A user talk page tagged for G11, feel up for sorting it out? It's fine if you have other priorities though. MIVP - (Can I Help?) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 16:24, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kai Normann Andersen[edit]

I recommend you withdraw this, it was a very poor nomination.--Milowenthasspoken 18:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

It's good advice and I'll probably follow it but just tell me this. Will anything happen if I don't follow the advice given? MIVP - (Can I Help? ◕‿◕) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 21:38, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

If you realize that a formal nomination/proposal that you have made, however well intended, is mistaken, then the faster you withdraw it the less of other people's time is likely to be spent arguing against or otherwise dealing with it. -- Hoary (talk) 06:41, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
That's a good enough reason I suppose. I've never been good at AfD so yeah ._.' I'll get right on it. MIVP - (Can I Help? ◕‿◕) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) 10:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Mount Joli[edit]

Hello Matticusmadness. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mount Joli, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: US GOV - Public Domain. Thank you. Alexf(talk) 15:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)



Nice to meet you Matticusmadness. I saw the message you left at my talk page just now, and I want to thank you for that message :P First of all, I don't really consider Wikipedia as "high difficulty stuff" lol. Adding content and contributing here is much fun, and I don't see the task stressful or anyway difficult :P. How did I join wikipedia? I was searching for stuff in a school project in 2009, and I came across an article with some mistakes (dont ask me which, i dont remember now :P), so I corrected that mistake with the school's computer. After a few months, I found it interesting to actually help and contribute as a wikipedian, so I registered an account :P As for the CSD articles, I was indeed a young kid back then, and I have no idea of the notability guidelines that all wikipedians must adhere to during article creation. As a result, I made some non-notable articles and they were speedily deleted lol. As for Club Penguin Wiki, I start editing there in a similar way - found mistakes in their articles, registered an account and correct them :P. You are so cool to have membership in Club Penguin. I have played Club penguin for more than like 5 years, and I never had a membership :P Finally, it really depends on your definition of a "kid" to judge whether I am one of them or not :P. I saw your age on your wikipedia profile. I don't want to reveal too much information in this virtual world, but all I can say is I am roughly 2 and a half year younger than you. Oh btw, I am not the only user who edit here besides Club Penguin Wiki. Some other users there occasionally edit Wikipedia too. Thanks. --Dps04 (talk) 12:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


I can appreciate the sentiment, but somehow the idea of a "strike" in an all volunteer force doesnt have the same weight. And frankly, I am just a tad cheesed that you changed my user page. But now that I've said it, water under the bridge etc. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ] # _ 20:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

My apologies. I just thought that it could be a strike because you were technically unhappy with how the conditions are here and it wouldn't exactly break your user page to place it. Lesson learned, welcome back :) MIVP - (Can I Help? ◕‿◕) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) - (Cakes) 21:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Improper RfC closure at Talk:Ugg boots trademark disputes[edit]

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Wayne (talk) 12:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Notification appreciated but it's a long shot to say I have a clue, if you look at my vote it says that I voted on what was the general consensus. Ping me again if my name gets a mention in the ANI Thread, otherwise please do not bug me about this again, at first glance notifications of ANI Involvement suggest you've been in trouble and my deletion track record is bad enough without giving people the idea I've been ANId over it >_<' Thank you. MIVP - (Can I Help? ◕‿◕) (Maybe a bit of tea for thought?) - (Cakes) 16:15, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about any negative implications. As the ANI was filed for an improper RfC closure I felt that the editors who voted should have the opportunity to air any concerns regarding how the RfC was closed. Cheers Wayne (talk) 06:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
That makes sense to me. Sorry if I came across as rude. you definitely made a good choice to tell everyone though. I just flipped out when I saw the dreaded 'you may have been involved in an ANI case' message, anyway have a good day :3 MIVP. (talk) MIVP (I Can Help? ◕‿◕) - (Chocolate Cakes) 09:26, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


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Hi Matticus. Just an FYI - the standard procedure in softerblock cases like these is for the user to request unblock using the {{unblock-un}} template (as documented in the block message). Assuming that their proposed new username fits the bill, the next passing admin will unblock them and bundle them off to WP:CHU (the admin closure template for {{softerblock}} even has a pre-written message with the link). Whilst blocking might have been a little over-hasty, MiamiToday had been warned (by Drm310) two days ago about their inappropriate username, together with a link to WP:CHU, so to claim that they weren't give fair warning isn't exactly true - they were told the name was inappropriate, told how to change it, and chose to ignore it. A block at this stage isn't inappropriate, especially when it can be easily lifted by following the instructions provided. Yunshui  13:36, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Really? Oh, oops. While I have no problem and understand that chances are you're right could I please ask you point out where in the text he pointed to CHU? I respect that per being a Sysop you're not inclined to lie but I'm the kind of guy to over think it if I haven't seen the evidence. Thanks. MIVP (I Can Help? ◕‿◕) - (Chocolate Cakes) 13:50, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Towards the end of the fifth paragraph of the welcome message (or fourth para, if you don't count Welcome! as a paragraph). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Ah flapjacks! I can't believe I missed that! Feel free to trout me for this one. MIVP (I Can Help? ◕‿◕) - (Chocolate Cakes) 15:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
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It's about that time again when I want to pin a few vandals to the walls of AIV. Can anybody point out any articles to me that are highly/often vandalised please? Think at the level of Blog before it was semi'd. MIVP (I Can Help? ◕‿◕) - (Chocolate Cakes) 00:39, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I started out with User:Henna/VF - it's a good start to vandal fighting - negative page changes with no edit summary are always a good thing to look at. Don't look at the very recent changes, let a few minutes pass - otherwise you'll find the Huggle editors (and ClueBot) will beat you to it.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:55, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Go to the schools wikiproject and watchlist every single schools article. Or, watchlist them 50 at a time until you find a sufficient level of vandalism (and BLP problems...) on your watchlist to keep you as busy as you prefer to be.
On a related note, common educational topics are good for the same sort of thing. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
You may want to ask for additional ideas at Wikipedia talk:Counter-Vandalism Unit. The editors over there should know the vandal-magnets. Huon (talk) 05:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Yep that should be enough to go on a vandal treasure hunt. Thank you guys. MIVP (I Can Help? ◕‿◕) - (Chocolate Cakes) 10:54, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Not a stub. Confident in that?[edit]

I'm pretty sure a reasonably filled out infobox, as well as geography, administration and history sections - don't constitute a stub. The main text alone has 200-300 words now. As WP:Stub says: Sizable articles are usually not considered stubs, even if they have significant problems or are noticeably incomplete. And I already tagged the article for its verifiability problem. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:42, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Got it, I'll pitch to WP Croatia and ask them to reassess when I can. I just noticed that you're a member of WP Croatia, why don't you reassess it? I can still call it out to WP Croatia's talk page so that somebody independent can assess it though if you'd prefer. MIVP (I Can Help? ◕‿◕) - (Chocolate Cakes) 10:01, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
It's not a problem either way. The assessments are just more wiki data, you can change them yourself. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 14:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

You're Allowed[edit]

Re this: You can make that kind of edit. Just preface it with {{nao}}. Daniel Case (talk) 15:08, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Okie Dokie, thanks Daniel :) MIVP (I Can Help? ◕‿◕) - (Chocolate Cakes) 15:22, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
You know, I sort of think we should come up with an additional argument for the {{UAA}} template to take that into account. Especially the ones that automatically create user pages along with the account. Daniel Case (talk) 03:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


Hi. Your user name is now available on bxr.wikipedia. -- Tegel (talk) 16:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you kindly Tegel, with that sorted I have a fully unified login. Happy days. MM ◕‿◕ (What's up pup?) - (Chocolate Cakes) 16:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Sockpuppetry Alarm[edit]

Re your message: No, it is not actionable. In this particular case, the use of a second account is okay. The original account was soft blocked because it was in violation of user name policy due it being a promotional name. Creating another account with a name that represents themselves as an individual is fine and is the proper thing to do. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

D,OH. I totally forgot about that part of policy. Good thing I don't have the block tools huh? Heh. Alright thanks for putting me right. MM (What's up pup?) - (Chocolate Cakes ◕‿◕) 19:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
No worries. Having the block tools doesn't mean you don't make mistakes. Just yesterday I left a block notice for somebody that I failed to block. So I had my own D'oh! moment. Not the first time I've done that. Or the time I "indefinite" blocked somebody for 3 hours. Or when I clicked revert on the wrong editor. Or when I got blocked (oh, wait, that wasn't me =)). -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

Thank you for your kind greeting, Matticus. Bumpy start is putting it mildly. The only reason I started editing was because someone put a false death notice on the page of a musician whom I know in Seattle. I found it online when I was doing a search for something. Google had placed it in a large highlighted box and I just about had a heart attack when I read it! I had to check a few things to make certain that he hadn't died, but a family member of his did recently die, he's in mourning, and the whole family is grieving. Once I was assured he was very much alive I set about trying to correct his page (the accusation of vandalism). Initially, I didn't even realize that someone was out there reversing my edits; I thought that there was a technical glitch. The article in question had a very sketchy 5-year-old bio that was both poorly written and completely unsupported. The bio was totally ignored and neglected until I started trying to fix it. The next thing I know everybody and their brother is jumping all over me. If they were so concerned, why didn't they get up in arms about the false death notice that could have truly done emotional harm to some good people!?! So at every turn I was thwarted while I was trying to learn how to use the site which was (and still is) confusing and not user-friendly. I even had someone make a snide comment to me in the chatroom (wherein I had gone for help and advice) about his false death notice - in essence - that it was not very important! I had to tell the person in question that I would like to see how he felt if someone planted a false death notice about him and his elderly mom found it after the recent death of another family member. So "bumpy start" is a vast understatement. Dealing with mean-spirited individuals in a situation like that isn't any picnic.

I truly appreciate that you reached out to me in kindness and offered assistance. I have two articles in the works and while I do wish to complete them, I have serious doubts about continuing on Wikipedia after they are finished. I don't believe that my other article (the "Speedy Deletion") about Joe Baque looks in the least bit like an "adoring eulogy for someone who is not yet dead." I was quoting from various newspaper articles about a man who is very well-respected in the jazz community for his many accomplishments over a long lifetime of achievements. If one can't quote from historical references like newspapers without being criticized, then how in the heck is one supposed to write an article? After a long and fruitful career, he has earned the compliments that have been put in print about him so why shouldn't I quote them? There are other articles on this site that are flattering about their subjects. So I don't see the problem other than that the opinions expressed by the administrators on Wikipedia are very subjective. One man's trash is another man's treasure, no? And so many people attacking/criticizing a new editor is in very bad form and indeed drives folks away. Before the Baque article was "Speedily Deleted" another administrator had put a note on it requesting folks to read my note pertaining to the fact that the article was a work in progress and that I was trying to figure out how to use the site. However, that person's considerate note wasn't heeded.

I'll check out the links you posted to me when I have the time. I just have a very bad taste in my mouth right now where Wikipedia is concerned. Thanks again for your kindness. Dat JaZzCat (talk) 09:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay I've given this thought and I think I know where to start. First I must ask. Was there a [1] or other such number after the information about his death? If not then the information could fairly be challenged by leaving a notice on the talk page saying that you've removed the content because it's unsourced or simply removing the content and stating in the edit summary that it was unsourced. If somebody wants it in that badly then they could find a source that passes GNG, our General Notability Guidelines. If it DID have [a number] then it would be in the rules to revert it, per GNG stated above.
The next thing that caught my attention was the bit about the comment in the Chat Room. Was this IRC? Either way I have a pretty strong feeling they may have been breaking NPA, our Policy on not attacking editors. With regards to not sticking around after completing the articles well it's your call, many of our editors come to do one or two things then disappear, but really there is a lot to do here and if you stick around you may find an article on something you have a deep liking of. For example I've done some heavy contributing to Pursuit Force and Pursuit Force Extreme Justice because I love those two games. You'll probably settle into one other area of helping Wikipedia too. We have the coding lovers, the people that clean the dusty corners, the people that handle the vandals, the social groups, you name em we probably have them! You'll fit in somewhere if you stick around.
The fact that your page was deleted even though you were working on it and another Admin had marked it as 'in progress' strikes me though. The Admins generally work together. Can you tell me the Admin that tagged it as 'in progress' and who deleted it so that I may initiate my own lines of inquiry? (Nice little game quote there XD)
I couldn't agree more that this is not the best way for Wikipedians to be introduced but unfortunately it is how it happens for many. I got a lucky break because I signed up to contribute to a discussion about if an article should be deleted (Generally known as AFD) but I've seen enough to know it's how it works. So thanks for toughing it out and sticking around.
If you'd like I can get you into contact with one of the Adopt-A-User experts who can explain it better then I can. Other then that yeah I think I've said everything that I can. I wish you luck in creating those two articles. If there's any issues that I failed to address there feel free to point it out and I'll see what I can say about it. MM (What's up pup?) - (Chocolate Cakes ◕‿◕) 21:00, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Needs You![edit]

Hi there Matticusmadness! I've noticed you have yourself listed as a member of the Food and Drink Wikiproject. Unfortunately it looks like the project has been slowly sliding into inactivity except for a couple of people. That makes me a sad potato, and nobody likes a sad potato amirite?

If you'd like to turn my frown upside down, can you do two small things?

First off, go here and add {{Tick}} (YesY) next to your name if you're still part of the project.

Second, go to the project talkpage and participate in a discussion about how to make the project more active, and how to go about making articles in our area of interest a lot better.

You don't want to make me cry, do you? Potatoes have a lot of eyes you know. So come on, join in! :)

— The Potato Hose 18:36, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

It is Yes check.svg Done, are you now a happy potato? :3 MM (What's up pup?) - (Chocolate Cakes ◕‿◕) 19:34, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


No, it's on purpose, not a bug. The bot pulls out the pernic in the name and then sees that as a variant of pemis, which believe it or not has been used in the past by vandals trying to escape the filters for the word "penis". Yes it's going to put up mostly false positives but that's the way bot is by design. We could certainly whitelist "pernicious" but I think it's fairly rare in usernames. Likewise Im sure "lesbo" has been useful in the past at least a few times, and the false positives are easy enough to discern. Your comments on the other names are definitely spot-on and helpful, so thank you. Soap 12:34, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, heh, my mistake ^^' I'm not exactly attuned to all of the possible ways that people can skip the filters, in fact most of the skips that I know are always mentioned by DQBot anyway, and back when I was doing those it was 4AM so my brain wasn't at its highest functioning power. Anyway glad I can help UAA. That place is overrun with trouble. Question, how well do you think I would do at RfA if I said my main area of focus as an Admin would be UAA? MM (What's up pup?) - (Chocolate Cakes ◕‿◕) 12:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure you'd get roasted at RfA if you tried running now while you have only about 1200 edits, regardless what you planned to work on or how productive you've been in the past. Sad but true. The average successful RfA candidate these days probably has about 20000 edits. But if you stick around a year or so and stay out of trouble you'd have a pretty good chance. Soap 16:20, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah the second part was what I was looking for knowing about WP:TOOSOON. Okay thank you :3 MM (What's up pup?) - (Chocolate Cakes ◕‿◕) 16:23, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

March Against Monsanto[edit]

I didn't nominate it for deletion because you edited it. This came up because one of the editors went to the WP:Help Desk and ranted about the deletion of the poorly formatted table, suggesting that the person who deleted the table was working for Monsanto. I went to the article and decided it was a mess. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:15, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, heh. My apologies if I sounded egotistical in that. I like to voice my theories and should probably learn when it's not such a good idea ^^' Besides, it's past 2AM over here so yeah, not fully functioning properly. My bad. MM (What's up pup?) - (Chocolate Cakes ◕‿◕) 01:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)


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Make Way for Willie Nelson[edit]

Not a problem, just did it now. Don't worry, you didn't actually do anything incorrectly; the standard AFD process is for an uninvolved administrator to do the final closure, so while you would certainly be allowed to directly close a discussion yourself when you're withdrawing a nomination that you made, it's perfectly okay to leave the final closure to another administrator in accordance with the typical procedure too.

But if you ever do want to get into closing AFD discussions, for the record the process is to put {{subst:at}} at the top of the page followed by the decision (keep, delete, merge, withdrawn, etc.) and your signature, and {{subst:ab}} at the bottom. Bearcat (talk) 18:26, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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Would you be interested in getting adopted by one of the experienced users we have? I find that adoption is a good way to learn the various things aroung here, and get past all the little corners. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 07:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I've sometimes considered it. Are you sure that having 1,200 edits already won't cause a problem? MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 09:01, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
You're never too experienced to be adopted :) Unless you're an alter account of someone from the ArbCom, in which case we arent experienced enough to adopt you.
I think adoption will be a very good option for you. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Per your message on my talkpage - consider yourself adopted. Your first task is to create your own adoption school; here's how. Welcome aboard. Yunshui  07:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Let's pop like hip hop and get me learning! MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 10:54, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Adoption school[edit]

Copyeditor Barnstar Hires.png Cleanup YesY
Congratulations on completing the Cleanup module of your adoption school.
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Congratulations on completing the Interaction module of your adoption school.

Grazie Yun. I'm already getting on with the next section. The questions in 'Interaction' are done if you want to take a look. (I think we both know i'll whizz through this bit with gold stars XD) Dyou enjoy being a part time teacher? MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 12:43, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I actually am a part-time teacher (aikido, t'ai chi and - less physically - EFL). I do enjoy it, yes; had I any faith that Mr Gove's current assault on our nation's teachers was a short-term problem I might have considered retraining. As it is, I'd rather boil my head in beef dripping than put myself through the hell some of my proper schoolteacher friends call a career. Yunshui  13:09, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Awesome. That explains how you're so good at Wikipedia. You're used to dealing with people who need teaching. It helps doesn't it? I often get other students asking me to explain the notes when they haven't been listening in lessons so I know that feeling. Anyway I have coursework to finish by Friday plus practice for my driving theory test and the Adoption School. See you when I get 'Copyright' or 'Vandals' done. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 13:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Copyright's marked (one question needs revisiting, though). I'm offline for a while now, so I'll pick it up again tomorrow. And remember, much as we might wish it were otherwise, Real Life trumps Wikipedia - so get your coursework done! Yunshui  13:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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Yunshui  22:16, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I do have my moments don't I? I dunno how I missed that it was multiple choice but feedback for the future etcetera. I'll do it when it's not 11:19PM at night for me. In the meantime if you're willing, the 'CSD' section of 'Deletion' is completed but PROD is going to prove to be a bit more of a challenge. Random question. Do you prefer marking Adoption School stuff or doing Admin duties? MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 22:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Oh and I should probably thank you for all of this huh? Thanks Yun, you're a barnstar deserving star. There'll be one in the mail. Unfortunately some get lost on the way there. I'll have this one set to come to you when I've finished the course. Heh heh. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 22:24, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
One more thing and I'm off for the night. I looked at your RfA and I'm in awe. I was in awe at the fact that Worm that Turned nominated you but your answer to Question 4 had me. If I saw that RfA right now I'd probably vote Give him the tools. Right I'm done taking a bicycle pump to your ego. XD MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 22:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Callanecc tells me Q4 was based on events that actually happened... eek. Thank you for the ego-stoking, but there's no need; my self-esteem is very healthy. Yours might not be after you see the results of your CSD test - rather than give you the answers, I've just offered a few hints; I think it might be a good idea for you to retry the questions I haven't ticked off (give a man a fish, etc.) when you have time. Yunshui  07:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Sure thing Yun, i've got about 10 minutes while I wait for my teacher to finish his meeting with the head so he can give me guidance for my last piece of coursework. I already noticed I got hammered for 5 / 10 though. I got A2 for a wrong answer right? I think i mistook it for being a tag for if it's in another language. My misinterpretational abilities huh? XD I'm on it. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 14:06, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

You are invited for discussion[edit]


As one of the participants in the original discussion, you are invited to participate in the follow-up discussion to a Mass removal of indefinite rangeblocks under controlled conditions. Your views will be appreciated.

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Another minibarnstar[edit]

CopyClean Barnstar Hires.png Copyright YesY
Congratulations on completing the Copyright module of your adoption school.

Yunshui  07:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't have minded you keeping it in our original conversation on here, but I have no trouble with how you've done it ^_^ I'm kicking myself over turning partially right into wrong on CSD Question 8 though XD Sigh, I'll get there eventually. Don't worry, your attempts to teach me shall show that they've been successful and worth it sooner or later. I've actually been thinking about making/suggesting a bot that gives a standard response to the phrase 'Why did you delete my page', let's face it, some admins could use that. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 07:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Friendly note[edit]


When a section is collapsed/closed, it usually means that the discussion is closed, and no further comments/replies must be added. I hope you'll keep this in mind in the future.

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 08:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Noted, thanks Soni. My regular point of knowing it's closed is if it's got the purple border around it, but thanks for the heads up. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 08:58, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Sometimes people also collapse conversations rather than the formal purple closing, especially when the discussion is too long. Its usually sensible to check why the discussion was collapsed before commenting inside/outside it, or to uncollapse it. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:07, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Aaand it did state a closing rationale. Well, that's my dimmo for the dayo. Thanks ToS. I'll keep aware of that. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 09:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q2 2013[edit]


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This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

Greets all. As I lie out here in the darkness on vacation of-- sorry What? Get to the point? Oh okay. Long story short I'm trying to edit User:Matticusmadness/Adoption School but apparently VisualEditor is not supported by Safari. I'm on my phone and don't have laptop access until Thursday. Does anyone know if it's possible to turn off VisualEditor? MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 22:31, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

  1. Go to "preferences".
  2. Go to "gadgets".
  3. Look under "Editing".
  4. Check "Remove Visual Editor from the user interface". --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 23:27, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks IDoH, you'll probably see me in IRC either tomorrow or Friday, you and ToS best prepare eh? XD MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 10:43, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi, in case you don't get or ignore the notification from the new system, please note I mentioned you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Accusations at Talk:March Against Monsanto that need to be resolved. Nil Einne (talk) 06:40, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. It's better to let me know via Talk because it's linked to my E-Mail and I always come on when I get a 'Mediawiki Mail' message. Anyway, third time March against Monsato has been at ANI. Sigh. Yes check.svg comment left MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 12:22, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Here we go again[edit]

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, place a new {{help me}} request on this page followed by your questions, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

I've removed the config for SuggestBot and had the drop page CSD'd (Thanks John) but as the page history will tell you SuggestBot dropped by earlier. Does anyone have an idea of the cause before I ping SuggestBot's owner on it? MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 11:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

You still have the "This user lets SuggestBot recommend articles to edit Weekly" userbox on your user page - I think you need to remove that. JohnCD (talk) 13:45, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Whoops yes that probably is it. Just goes to show I've completely forgotten about the user boxes doesn't it? Heh. Thanks again John. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 17:57, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Another one for the collection...[edit]

Citation Barnstar Hires.png References YesY
Congratulations on completing the References module of your adoption school.

Yunshui  14:47, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Nice to see you popping up Yun. I knew you'd get around to checking eventually. And I'm quite happy to keep track of your talk where I can comment as a Talk Page Stalker. Who says students can't help their teachers right? MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 14:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


... but there's really no need; I can take the occasionally bout of abuse - comes with the mop. Yunshui  09:18, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed I must have goofed after you restored it. I'm thinking there's a NPA in what he's said, however I'm confident he's using Barnstars in the wrong way. Just looking out for my WikiFriend and my WikiTeacher. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 09:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
It's odd; I see that misuse of WikiLove fairly regularly from new users. I'm not convinced it's deliberate; the mouse-over message on the WikiLove heart icon says "Post a new message for this user showing your appreciation", and since there's nothing else in the top menu that says "Post a message" I can see why people use that t leave a message rather than the more obscure-sounding "Edit source/Edit beta". Yunshui  09:30, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you![edit]

Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg And since we're talking WikiLove, thanks for keeping an eye on my talkpage for me. Yunshui  09:31, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

I help he (and she) who helps me Yun. And you've helped me since (Guess who this links to?). Still, thank you plenty. I hope you don't mind that I put (The Local Bakery) in place of (talk page stalker) for one reply. I was feeling humorous that day. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 09:37, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - September 2013[edit]


It would be appreciated if you joined in the conversation ongoing at WT:Food in regards to the front page of the project. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 12:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg It's on my to do list MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 12:07, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Your edit to my user page[edit]

Re this: Yes I did. Thanks. Daniel Case (talk) 13:31, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I suppose you could call that me using the Edit Summary to its maximum potential, heh. I think it's extra important to make sure what you did is clear to someone in an edit summary as a person will jump straight into action when they see that their user page was edited. Unless of course they're busy but you get the picture. I guess I'd better get back to the New Users Log. See you on UAA Daniel MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 22:37, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Cake for you[edit]

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Just some cake for being on the chat Hybirdd (talk) 18:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

AWESOME O3O XD thanks :3 MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 18:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Requesting your input re the Wikipedia Astrology Project[edit]

Hi Matticusmadness I have joined the Wikipedia Astrology project today and am contacting you as a listed member of that project. There has been a proposal to consider the project dead and merge it with 12 other alternative subjects into a new wiki project which would oversee all aspects of fringe. I think it would be a shame to lose the astrology project on the basis that it has no active participants without contacting the members directly and exploring ideas for new ways to work together on astrology-related pages. It would be very useful if you would visit the discussion and let us know if your interest in the project is still active, or what it might take to rekindle it. Regards Tento2 (talk) 09:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - October 2013[edit]

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WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, October 2013[edit]


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Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request[edit]

Greetings. Because you participated in the August 2013 move request regarding this subject, you may be interested in participating in the current discussion. This notice is provided pursuant to Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate notification. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:35, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Roll call![edit]

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Member of the Sega Task Force of WikiProject Video games, are you active and editing Sega articles? If so, please answer the roll call at WT:SEGA! Make sure to check out the Sega Task Force's pages and utilize its pages, including the community talk page, review department, and free image gallery, all of which can help you with your article writing! Happy editing!
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GFI MAX Backup article review[edit]


I have recreated the page GFI MAX Backup as a userdraft. I more or less finished it. It was written that I can ask for its review. So, can somebody review it ,please, and tell me what I need to improve? Thank you,

Veronika.iaso (talk) 12:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


Hi Matticus. I spotted this edit whilst reviewing the user's unblock request - the username template was perfectly correct, the little diatribe that followed, less so. Remember that not every person coming to Wikipedia for the first time understands what the site is for, or why they can't write about their company - in many cases, such as this one, they also don't have English as a first language. Please try and remain civil and helpful even when such editors are inadvertently violating Wikipedia's policy - "...there's the door. Disappear, please," is dismissive, rude and unnecessary. Yunshui  15:32, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Whoops. I didn't think either the user of Spearhead Edu or anyone else would be back there after that block since it seemed to only be there as a single-purpose. Plus that wasn't as bad as it could have been, but fair dice Yun, no setting the alligator on the single-purpose person. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 17:25, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

A Tesla Roadster for you![edit]

Roadster 2.5 windmills trimmed.jpg A Tesla Roadster for you!
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia! Gg53000 (talk) 16:04, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

It looks like a Lotus, or better yet Grand Theft Auto 5's Coil Voltic. Still, it looks awesome. Thanks. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 16:22, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Quarter 4, 2013[edit]


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sayed mohamad bagher posaei[edit]

hi.I've created an article.Yunshui It can be removed.Please revived it to.I have 16 sources.ThanksMokhtar-saghafi (talk) 15:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

One, Asking another person when another has said no lowers your already extremely low odds.

Two, seeing as Yunshui is my Wikipedia mentor if he says no I will also say no.

Three, judging by your track record I doubt even two of these sources meet our criteria.

Four, I don't even have the required privileges to restore a page anyway.

So basically you're wasting your time here.

@Yunshui: anything to add Yun? MM ("Well? What have you got to report?") ("I give to you...") 19:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Not really. I've already explained why the proposed sourced aren't appropriate. If Mokhtar-saghafi has any more sources to offer up I'm happy to take a look at them, but further copies of the same useless press release won't help his case. Yunshui  07:33, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello., I would source 18. Article will revive. Give more resources. Valid persion wikipedia link I.thanks Mokhtar-saghafi (talk) 12:07, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

hi.Please bring paper to the first time. Lot of resources gave. ThanksMokhtar-saghafi (talk) 07:38, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Which part of 'I don't have the permissions to do so', 'your sources aren't up to scratch' and 'we already said no' aren't you getting? I'm beginning to question your competence to be quite honest. MM ("Well? What have you got to report?") ("My new invention!") 00:34, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

A cupcake for you![edit]

Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg Yea, thanks. Smiley.svg Harsh (talk) 16:13, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

A minibarnstar for you![edit]

Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png Vandals YesY
Congratulations on completing the Vandals module of your adoption school.
Eraser Barnstar Hires.png Deletion YesY
Congratulations on completing the Deletion module of your adoption school.

Yunshui  07:44, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Un'amore e una vendetta[edit]

With respects, CSD#A1 would not apply. The article as first nominated did (albeit tersely) state "Un'amore e una vendetta is a television series." Though yes, lacking content, that one line is enough to identify the subject of the article. CSD#A1 is for "Articles lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article," and "Context is different from content, treated in CSD#A3. Caution is needed when using this tag on newly created articles. This excludes coherent Non-English material, and poorly translated material. If any information in the title or on the page, including links, allows an editor, possibly with the aid of a web search, to find further information on the subject in an attempt to expand or edit it, there is enough context that CSD#A1 is not appropriate. Of course, the article has been markedly improved since your comment. Face-smile.svg Schmidt, Michael Q. 22:07, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Notably. Eh there's a reason I generally just watch for offensive usernames in the NewUsers log. Wait. This was a new article? MM (I did the who in the whatnow?) (I did it!) 11:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


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In case you are bored, I have the first part of "The Dannyboy1209 Story" here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pablothepenguin (talkcontribs)

Red link. Looks like it's been deleted or not started to me. MM (I did the who in the whatnow?) (I did it!) 22:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Now started Pablothepenguin (talk) 22:12, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I more or less have an idea where this is going. "Unfair system within Wikipedia"? Trust me you wouldn't be the first person to say this. MM (I did the who in the whatnow?) (I did it!) 22:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
I deleted the page. Using a Wikipedia page to attempt to stalk and out an editor is an egregious violation of community trust. As Matticusmadness says, you wouldn't be the first to say this, but you do not invade other people's privacy here. Period. Thanks. Happy editing to you, Matticusmadness :) Keegan (talk) 05:07, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Can't say I saw the outing in it, that said I only had a skim over what was there. He might have added more since or I was just focused on other matters (tbh it may be the latter with the guy's SPI.) Nonetheless thanks for the notice Keegan. MM (I did the who in the whatnow?) (I did it!) 09:36, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

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User:Abdinasir Guled[edit]

I removed the speedy tag you added in this edit. The user is allowed to write a bit about himself: "...Its normal use is to give basic information, if you wish, about yourself or your Wikimedia-related activities..." Although a teeny bit promotional, I think as he is a "professional journalist", we wouldn't want to chase him away. Consider adding {{userspace draft}} and or {{userpage}} instead to such pages and watching to see what happens. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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I am a bad adopter...[edit]

Hi Matticus. I was updating my list of adoptees today and realised that I still have you down as my student. You don't really need me any more - and haven't for a while - so I'm happy to let the adoption come to a natural end, but wondered whether you wanted to finish of your adoption school (there are five or six parts of the Reliable Sources section still to do). If you do, let me know, we'll plough through them, and you can have a diploma; if not, no worries. It was a pleasure, either way. Yunshui  14:48, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

It's good to see that you're well Yun.
Forgive me that i'm rarely here anymore. I'll see if I can get my head back into the 'Reliable Sources' matter. I owe you that much for the help you've given me. MM (WhatIDo WHATIDO?) (Now THIS... I did.) 16:11, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Oh, there's no owing involved - I just thought I'd bring it to your attention in case you wanted to finish it off. No forgiveness required either; real life always takes precedence over Wikipedia... or at least, it should. Yunshui  07:50, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Come on dude don't let this trouble you. You've done the right thing letting me know.
First of all thanks a plenty for reminding me. It's just what I needed. A few more of them have been done. I'll most likely do the rest of them on Wednesday as I've got part of a college assignment to write up today and tomorrow is college day.
I will get em done though. We've come too far to drop it now! Hope you're okay buddy. MM (WhatIDo WHATIDO?) (Now THIS... I did.) 11:09, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Looking for collaboration[edit]

Hi Matticusmadness, I’m currently working on the page for David M. Cote and I’m seeking out guidance from experienced editors to collaborate with. I’ve disclosed my COI on the article talk page, but have yet to receive any responses there. When you have a quick moment, would you mind taking a look at the draft I have on my sandbox? I’d appreciate any feedback or suggestions you might have. Thanks! --FacultiesIntact (talk) 08:27, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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