User talk:Chrisandbev

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Happy editing! SwisterTwister talk 15:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Welcome message

What is the URL link? SwisterTwister talk 19:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I found the the link you were mentioning. It wasn't appearing because there weren't ref tags (<ref> and </ref>) at the sides of the link.

Example: <ref>[http://veritymedical.co.uk/files/protocols/TENSProtocolbyDrDeirdreWalsh.pdf TENSProtocolbyDrDeirdreWalsh] </ref>

My page for new users here has a detailed section how to cite sources using ref tags. Also, please consider using "show preview" (located next to "save page") when possible. Using "show preview" will allow you change your contributions prior to submitting. This will also prevent edit conflicts and exhaustion to the servers. SwisterTwister talk 02:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

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Secondary sources

Please use secondary sources per WP:MEDRS. Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:24, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes may find this unusually but we strongly prefer secondary source here on Wikipedia such as review articles and major textbooks. Thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:35, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What you added was a primary research study (a primary source). Please use secondary sources. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We do not use primary source to refute secondary ones. We are a review of secondary sources. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:51, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Primary research does not take into account other studies that are done and is frequently incorrect or at least out of context. Being a little behind the most recent papers means we avoid containing a lot of wrong stuff which in our opinion is more important. If that finding is important it will not be long before a secondary source comments on it and puts it in proper perspective.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No a secondary source is needed. You need to wait until a new review article comes out on the topic. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The secondary sources we are looking for are review articles or major medical textbooks. Someone referring to this paper is not the type of secondary source we use. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you mean. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns

I have reverted your changes to TENS. Why would you have removed this?

Conversely, results from the Bone and Joint Decade 2000-2010 Task Force on Neck Pain, reported in early 2008, showed no clinically significant benefit to TENS for the treatment of neck pain when compared to placebo treatment.^[1]

It was supported by a review article. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to be here specifically to promote TENS. As per the other editors please bring your concerns to the talk page. Continuing to remove well refereed material will get you blocked from editing. If you wish to improve the page in question you must use review articles. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:06, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As it was not vandalism your concern was removed here [1]. Wikipedia does have certain policies and formatting requirements. As your edits did not comply with these requirements they where reverted. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:35, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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^ Haldeman, Scott; Carroll, L; Cassidy, JD; Schubert, J; Nygren, A; Bone and Joint Decade 2000-2010 Task Force on Neck Pain and Its Associated Disorders (15 February 2008). "The Bone and Joint Decade 2000-2010 Task Force on Neck Pain and Its Associated Disorders: Executive Summary". Spine. 33 (4S Supplement): S5–7. doi:10.1097/BRS.0b013e3181643f40. PMID 18204400.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

[1] Haldeman, Scott; Carroll, L; Cassidy, JD; Schubert, J; Nygren, A; Bone and Joint Decade 2000-2010 Task Force on Neck Pain and Its Associated Disorders (15 February 2008). "The Bone and Joint Decade 2000-2010 Task Force on Neck Pain and Its Associated Disorders: Executive Summary". Spine. 33 (4S Supplement): S5–7. doi:10.1097/BRS.0b013e3181643f40. PMID 18204400.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

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