User talk:Dwilliamphilip83
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Hey there! Thanks for the warm welcome! Quick question... I’m trying to add very useful info to the wiki page for ‘Wonder Woman 1984’, but it’s telling me I can’t and that the page is protected?! It this a block for me, a new user?
Thanks! Dwilliamphilip83 (talk) 00:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! That specific page is indeed protected from edits by new and unregistered users because there is a history of disruption. You will be able to edit once you've edited other articles for a bit; this protection isn't placed because of you specifically, however. I hope this helps – please feel free to ping me by adding
{{u|Blablubbs}}to your reply or drop by on my talk page if you have any other questions. Best, Blablubbs|talk 16:10, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
March 2021[edit]
Your recent editing history at Wonder Woman 1984 shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. —Locke Cole • t • c 20:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Let the record show that this editor is seemingly conspiring with the same 3 or 4 other editors to remove my good faith reasonable edits to the controversy section of Wonder Woman 1984.
I am simply trying to add counter points (with proper citations) that the movie is not flippant about its use of consent AND the movie doesn’t have a sex scene (which the current ‘controversy’ section claims falsely that it does)
It takes 2 to edit war. And this Wiki user —Locke Cole is starting the ‘war’ Dwilliamphilip83 (talk) 00:44, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello.
I am making perfectly reasonable edits and I am citing my sources (from reputable links/ sites)
There is someone constantly deleting my edits (even though they are approved edits) Dwilliamphilip83 (talk) 21:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, if you look at the removals you will see many editors have given you constructive criticism that you should consider before re-adding the content. You may wish to use the article talk page (Talk:Wonder Woman 1984) to discuss the changes you want to make as there may be a compromise that can be reached. But you cannot repeatedly add (or revert, in this case) to your chosen version without discussion when your edits are challenged. Please read more here: Wikipedia:Consensus and Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- If you need help understanding anything you can ask myself, or Blablubbs (who welcomed you above some time ago) and we will try to help you. Just understand that you cannot re-add information that is being disputed until a consensus has been reached. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Who is removing my edits? Where can I find this discussion? I’m somewhat new. But I assure you I’m a real person. I’m a 37 year old man living in Northern Indiana USA.
Please help me to see the ‘advisements’ you speak of.
It takes 2 to engage in a war.
I’d hope the person constantly deleting my edits would be getting the same admonishments
Please kindly point me in the direction to where I can reasonably state my ‘case’
- Dustin P. Dwilliamphilip83 (talk) 21:38, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- You may want to view this on a computer or on a tablet with the desktop site being requested as the mobile site does not always make it easy to see things. But basically, you want to go to the page (Wonder Woman 1984) and then click on "View history". You can also click here to see Wonder Woman 1984's history. You will see that four different editors have removed the content that you are adding. To discuss this, you would need to go to the "talk" page (see Help:Talk pages for some basic information, then get more on the guidelines for talk pages at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines). At the Wonder Woman 1984 talk page you would want to start a new "section" for your discussion so you can put your ideas up and work with other editors to reach a consensus. You must be prepared to accept that other editors may not agree with the changes you propose, but you may be able to convince them of a compromise. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Some more help[edit]
So look, I see you've placed objections on each editors talk page (mine included). This is not the most efficient way to address your concerns, using the talk page at Talk:Wonder Woman 1984 is. You should reserve user talk pages for discussions about individual editor conduct or if you have questions that aren't related to one specific article but are meant for a specific editor who you have spoken with before (like @Blablubbs: above). As Wikipedia works on consensus you must remain civil with editors if you hope to reach an agreement that you find acceptable. Otherwise with the five editors who have reverted you your changes would not be included at all. Please consider carefully your tone, read the links at the very top that were provided by Blablubbs and carefully consider how you proceed. You should also consider community parts of the site designed for newcomers such as Wikipedia:Teahouse and Wikipedia:Help desk. —Locke Cole • t • c 22:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Let the record show that this editor is seemingly conspiring with the same 3 or 4 other editors to remove my good faith reasonable edits to the controversy section of Wonder Woman 1984.
I am simply trying to add counter points (with proper citations) that the movie is not flippant about its use of consent AND the movie doesn’t have a sex scene (which the current ‘controversy’ section claims falsely that it does)
It takes 2 to edit war. And this Wiki user —Locke Cole is starting the ‘war’ Dwilliamphilip83 (talk) 00:42, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
March 2021[edit]
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. signed, Rosguill talk 22:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)- Hi Dwilliamphilip83. You've already been blocked once for editing warring at Wonder Woman 1984. The idea behind a block was to allow the situation to cool down and give everyone a chance to try and resolve things per Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. The content you're trying to add is considered contentious and has been removed by multiple editors. When something like this happens, the WP:ONUS falls upon the editor wanting to make a contentious change to establish a WP:CONSENSUS on the article's talk page to do so. So, my suggestion to you would be to try and resolve this through talk page discussion that focuses on the content of the changes and avoids making comments about other editors. Wikipedia talk page discussions aren't intended to be battlegrounds where the other editors participating in the discussion are your enemies. The goal of the discussion should be to figure out what's best for Wikipedia and sometimes that means that we might have to work to find a compromise that can be agreed upon. If you continue down the path you're currently heading, you're likely going to end up being blocked again, and this time it will be for a much longer period of time. Editors blocked for edit warring who immediately go back to the same article and repeat the same behavior are pretty much never shown any sympathy by the Wikipedia Community. So, the best way forward here would be to use the article talk page to discuss your concerns and try and convince others that the changes you want made are in the best interests of Wikipedia (i.e. they reflect relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines). -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. signed, Rosguill talk 22:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)- Unfortunately, you've been blocked again. While I'll understand how that might be upsetting and seem unfair, I suggest you take a careful look and WP:UNBLOCK and WP:NOTTHEM before posting anything out of anger. Administrators generally only block to prevent disruption when other attempts to resolve matters have failed, and they only tend to extend blocks or re-block when it appears that a previously blocked editor isn't WP:LISTENing. Even though this latest block is for two weeks, you can make an unblock request at any time before it expires as explained in the above block notice. However, for any such request to be successful, you're going to need to convince an administrator of two things: (1) you understand the reasons why you were blocked, and (2) you agree to not repeat the same behavior and instead try to resolve things through talk page discussion. Unblock requests which are pretty much nothing but rants against other editors or how unfair things are almost always are declined outright, and editors who continue to make such requests generally end up having their block extended even longer, their ability make further such requests and edit their user talk page removed, or a combination of the two. You, or course, can simply decide to wait for this block to expire if you want, but any repeat of the same behavior will likely lead to an even longer (possibly indefinite) block the next time; moreover, any attempts to disparage other editors or re-argue your case here on this user talk page while your account is blocked will also likely only lead to your block being extended and your user talk page access removed. For what it's worth, editors who end up getting blocked are able to return to editing in good standing once their block has been lifted, but it requires that adjustments in the way they approach editing are made. Those willing to make such adjustments often go on to become very productive members of the Wikipedia community; those unwilling to make such adjustments often find themselves permanently on the outside looking in. Only you can really decide which of these two types is going to apply to you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Dwilliamphilip83 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I’m adding sensible counterpoints (with citations) to a smearing narrative that Director Patty Jenkins & Fans of Wonder Womam 1984 are not defending non consensual encounters; at this point it would seem there are 3 or 4 editors committed to only one side of a narrative; they are allowing false information to spread (particularly they are letting false information stay on the page; particularly that the movie contains a sex scene (it doesn’t) Dwilliamphilip83 (talk) 01:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Two things: you're blaming the others, and you obviously didn't read the lengthy explanation and all the advice that Marchjuly wrote up for you. This doesn't bode well. Drmies (talk) 01:14, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 18 March 2021 (UTC)- This for your comment on Rosguill's talk page, a violation of AGF and a personal attack. I'll add that it's all just very childish and ignorant when it comes to what collaborative editing is all about. I'm hesitant to look at your other edits on this talk page and elsewhere, lest I be tempted to just make this block indefinite for you having a battleground attitude, blaming others, making personal attacks, and being unable to comprehend what it means to edit in a collaborative and collegial manner. Drmies (talk) 01:18, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Dwilliamphilip83 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I’m adding sensible counterpoints (with citations) to a smearing narrative that Director Patty Jenkins & Fans of Wonder Womam 1984 are not defending non consensual encounters; at this point it would seem there are 3 or 4 editors committed to only one side of a narrative; they are allowing false information to spread (particularly they are letting false information stay on the page; particularly that the movie contains a sex scene (it doesn’t); if this kind of conspiring and bullying is the norm here, I’m taking this story public. I will show that certain editors will let false information stand on Wikipedia (ie the non existent ‘sex scene’ while hubristically blocking good faith edits that adhere to Wikipedia editing at large; there’s obviously an agenda here amongst just 3 or 4 editors committed to controlling this particular narrative Dwilliamphilip83 (talk) 01:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Request denied: block extended to indefinite, for obvious reaons; WP:CIR captures it best, perhaps--"competence" in a larger, non-technical sense. Drmies (talk) 01:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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