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Stop false claims and vandalism on page contents for "Imam Hossein University"

Stop your false claims and vandalism on page contents for "Imam Hossein University". Do not wipe the faiths. This is the last warning. If you continue to your illegal activities, you will be blocked and the corresponding page will be locked. --Faith2000 (talk) 01:04, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resposne: First, you should learn appropriate academic writing, then you can start to add text to wikipedia pages. You add some text without any references. Most present contents are based on a study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), the Global Security, and the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI). Your English has a lot of problem, e.g. "is called in the name of" the correct is "is named after". Unfortunately, we can accept only fluent English writing with citations. --Facecite12656 (talk) 04:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: Who are you? A member of IRGC that wants to publish false claims on that military university? What do you mean by "we"? You are not part of Wikipedia. Based on your contributions, you are trying to provide some kinds of reputation for military organizations of Iran. Which part of my statements were incorrect? Anyone knows that Imam Hossein University is not a public and ordinary university. It is a military and soldier training center! Why are you trying to call it a high-rank technical university while it is not? If you want to have citations then why you removed citations to Khamenei's annual visit from that university? They are the best document on what I have stated. Those movies exhibit the military environment of your so-called open university. You can see there the university chancellor and commander of IRGC in the military uniform. You also see there Khamenei making policies for the university. You are trying to entitle that garrison a high-rank, open and technical university but it is apparently a false claim. It is indeed at the bottom of university rankings in Iran. You are not a fluent and native English speaker. If you find a mistake, you can simply correct it. Corrections were based on facts and were done mostly on the beginning of the article. Other parts were mostly remained unchanged. Your mentioned centers (references) were biased and their interest is in announcing that university as a public and high-rank technical university while it is not. Furthermore, the Introduction did not have any citation and reference. Now, it has at least two references to Khamenei's visits. We are here to show facts, not false claims. If you were honest, you should not remove links to Khamenei's annual visits. It shows that you are not honest and your removal is an apparent case of vandalism. Faith2000 (talk) 07:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resposne: If you look carefully, those high-rank claims and some misinformation were added by other users (e.g. 217.218.175.125). We have two types of university: Public and Private. A public university is a university that is predominantly funded by public means through a national or subnational government such as military organisation etc, as opposed to private universities. The references based on youtube and facebook do not have any value. I do not take care of this wiki page anymore. You and other can write whatever you want.--Facecite12656 (talk) 10:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: Who knows? Maybe 217.218.175.125 was also your own IP address! Irrespective of high-rank claims, you have had other false claims that I tried to remove some of them. Iranian universities cannot be categorized just into public and private universities. There are military universities like Imam Hossein and Imam Ali universities. IHU is neither a public university nor a private university. It is not a public university because no one has free access to the university. Its entrance is controlled by military forces and soldiers. It should be considered as a military university. I have added new references including a link to the website of Iran's Supreme Leader that explicitly calls IHU a military university that belongs to IRGC. I have added 8 references. Those Youtube links are so valuable and important because they are original and show inside that place. They show your claimed "students" and "academic staff" in the military uniforms! Do you know any public university in the world that its students and chancellor appear in the military uniform? It's very good to hear that you will stop your false claims. I have provided enough references to website and newspapers that proves what I said. Regarding your claims for your English fluency, just read your text again. It is full of grammatical mistakes! Faith2000 (talk) 13:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resposne: Paramilitary means a group or organization that is organized like an army. Read Page 573 of "Emerging Space Powers: The New Space Programs of Asia, the Middle East and South America" by Brian Harvey, Henk H. F. Smid, Théo Pirard (2010): "The Imam Hossein University, affiliated with the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (Pasdaran) is a public university of engineering, science and military in Iran. The university was established in 1986. The Department of Aerospace Engineering at the Faculty of Engineering conducts both undergraduate and graduate programs in aerospace engineering" You only need to search "imam hossein university" http://books.google.com.au/ Most of my contents and materials can be found in many books such as: "Iranian Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Birth of a Regional Nuclear Arms Race?" by Anthony H. Cordesman, Adam C. Seitz (2009), "The Gathering Biological Warfare Storm" by Barry R. Schneider, Jim A. Davis (2004), "Iran's Military Forces in Transition: Conventional Threats and Weapons of Mass Destruction" by Anthony H. Cordesman (1999), "The Nuclear Sphinx of Tehran" by Yossi Melman, Meir Javedanfar (2007), "Khomeini's Ghost" by Con Coughlin (2009), "Iran's strategic weapons programmes: a net assessment" by International Institute for Strategic Studies (2006), ... --Facecite12656 (talk) 14:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the following universities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Maritime_Academy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Maritime_Academy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Maritime_Academy They are affiliated with some military organizations, but they are public university. Students also wear an army uniform. A public university is funded by the government. All military organizations and universities are funded by their government. --Facecite12656 (talk) 14:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: If you have seen those statements, why did you delete “affiliated with the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (Pasdaran)" from it? We do not mind what they wrote. Maybe they were under influence of what your colleagues stated here in Wikipedia or other websites. They should first see movies at Youtube from Khamenei's annual visits, see those soldiers in their uniforms and see inside that garrison and then call it a public university. The official website of Iran's Supreme Leader which is at the head of power hierarchy in Iran calls IHU a "military" university that belongs to IRGC. I changed “paramilitary” to “military” according to what is stated in Khamenei’s official website. Khamenei who selects IHU’s chancellor/commander says that it is a military university and you say that it is a public university. I think it is better to remove any judgment on the kind of university. Instead, we should explicitly express its belonging to the IRGC. There is a great difference between IHU and your mentioned military academies in US. IHU belongs to IRGC not simply related to it. You and your colleagues tried to mislead people by saying that IHU is a high-rank technical university, it belongs to the Ministry of Science, Research and Technology, it is comparable with Sharif University of Technology, etc. They are all false claims. Unfortunately, IHU has the lowest ranking among Iranian universities and you cannot change it by lying and false claims. -- Faith2000 (talk) 15:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resposne: For a ranking, one can look at the QS World University Rankings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QS_World_University_Rankings There is no official website about ranks of all Iranian universities. You also removed all important organizations which are linked to this university, and are working toward a weapon of mass destruction. Read here: http://www.iranwatch.org/privateviews/SPC/perspex-spc-jafarzadeh-universities-032006.htm One can find some text removed by you here. "The nuclear physics program at Imam Hossein University is as extensive as Sharif University of Technology, which has the oldest and largest nuclear physics major in the country." This information was published by Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control. --Facecite12656 (talk) 05:56, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: For ranking issue: You cannot find IHU in the QS ranking system. For the Iranian ranking, you can see 20 of top universities here: http://www.mehrnews.com/fa/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=1228769

You cannot find IHU there. It shows that you and your colleagues from IRGC lied as you said it is top technical university in Iran. For ensuring that it is at the bottom of university rankings, it will be sufficient to look at the entrance exams of universities where no top student is interested in IHU.

Thanks for this link: http://www.iranwatch.org/privateviews/SPC/perspex-spc-jafarzadeh-universities-032006.htm Of course, I removed the following sentence "The nuclear physics program at Imam Hossein University is as extensive as Sharif University of Technology, which has the oldest and largest nuclear physics major in the country" because it was meaningless and inaccurate. You and your colleagues took that sentence to provide further evidences on your claim that it is a top university but you ignored other issues, e.g. the owner of IHU, its military structure, etc. IHU is not comparable with "Sharif University of Technology" and all other public universities in Iran from the scientific perspective.

The interesting thing in your second link is the following sentences that you have ignored it and wrote something different in Wikipedia:

"The Imam Hossein University is the main academic facility for training the personnel and commanders of the IRGC and members of the regime’s intelligence security. The Imam Hossein University, unlike other universities, is organized like a military structure. In specific, it has a student brigade and all students are under the command of this brigade. The chain of command at this university is company commander, platoon commander, and team commander."

Thanks for the second link. It is another evidence and reference for what I wrote on IHU's military structure. However, it is not accurate because IHU is not the main academic facility for the MOIS but as you and your colleagues in IRGC believe in it, I will add it as a reference to the introduction. It exactly confirms what I wrote there and shows that you and your colleagues from IRGC published wrong statements and false claims to advertise IHU as a top, public and ordinary university while it is not. Faith2000 (talk) 11:56, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: It seems to me that you are actually member of IRGC or Iranian Government, who tries to wipe all track of Iran nuclear activities from wiki pages. I already wrote that "The Imam Hossein University, which is particularly run on military lines by IRGC". But, you tried to remove all information about nuclear activities and institutes linked to this university. For example, Ore Processing Center, Kimia Maadan (KM) Company and Sina Industry work with this university on production of the biological materials and green salt. It seems that you are very obsessed by ranks, since you always write about ranking system. The fact is that none of Iranian universities are among high prestigious universities, except Sharif University of Technology and University of Tehran. Iranian contribution to science is less than 1% in the history of humanity. The audience of IHU page is not people from Iran. But, international organizations and people who worry about a country threatening to wipe other country off the map, and destabilizing all regions of middle east. --Facecite12656 (talk) 15:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: I am not going to continue this discussion with you. It's funny that you are saying my words to me. I said the truth. You and your friends from IRGC tried to say that IHU is a top technical university with the same activities as those of Sharif University that is not correct. You tried to deny that IHU belongs to IRGC and said it belongs to MSRT. You denied that IHU has a military structure. Now, you say me that I am in favorite of your belonging group (IRGC)! If I was a member of IRGC or Iranian Government, I tried like you to deny that IHU belongs to IRGC.

We are not here to discuss about ranking of universities. If I wrote something on its ranking, it is because you or your friend wrote that it is a top technical university and you did not remove it in your edition. FYI, there are more Iranian universities indexed in QS ranking system in 2011. Regarding your claim that Iranian contribution to science is less than 1%, it should be excellent considering the proportion of its population which is less than 1% of the world's population. Furthermore, you dropped contributions of 3000000 Iranians living just in US. Regarding ranking system, there are many factors in International rankings like teaching in English and number of foreign students that caused many Iranian universities to not appear among top universities. The situation is completely different for IHU. Indeed, IHU should not be considered as a university. It is indeed a garrison and soldier training center for IRGC.

You and your friends were exaggerating on the scientific capabilities of IHU and tried to say that it a top technical university while it is indeed a garrison, not even a university. Of course, it has relations with some companies but they do not have any specific cooperation with top universities of Iran because their academic staffs look at IHU as a garrison not a university. Furthermore, in that page we are discussing on IHU not on other companies. There are enough discussions on IHU's involvement in the nuclear program, specifically in its Research part. The names of your mentioned companies and other companies have been mentioned there. The paragraph that has been removed from the end of that page was about cooperation between IHU and other universities that is a wrong claim. It seems that you and your colleague were using it (in addition to claims for being a public university, a top university, etc) to bind it with other universities and gather some scientific reputation for that garrison. Who knows? Maybe you are graduated from IHU and are trying to gather some scientific reputation to fool other people by claiming that it is a top university!

It is the role of IAEA to clear the nuclear program of Iran not a page of wikipedia devoted to IHU. 80% of current contents of that page is devoted to IHU's involvement in the nuclear program. I think it is enough. What has been removed was mostly the beginning part where you claimed it is a public and top university and the ending part where you claimed it has cooperation with top universities of Iran. You were denying that IHU belongs to IRGC and we had to correct it. Faith2000 (talk) 20:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: I do not like to continue this discussion with you, since I do not have time. As I said, I am not interested in this wiki page anymore. This wiki page was not entirely written by me. I just added some paragraphs. There are many users, so you can argue with them. The point which I said was that a public university is a university that is funded by government. My other concern was about the removal of information about nuclear activities.

Another point, the Jewish community has the lowest population, but they significantly contributed to science and technology. They have 155 Nobel laureates, 22% of total Nobel prizes. I do not have time to discuss the problem of Iran with you. There are a lot of factors: history and cultural background, religious and undeveloped society, radicalism and fundamentalism, poor education systems in both schools and universities, and corruptions. The first Iranian university was established in 1934, so it means that Iran does not have a long history in the modern science and technology. The revolutions, wars, sanctions, and radicalism never give any space for the development of the society. --Facecite12656 (talk) 04:53, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: As I said, I am not going to continue discussion with you. The Jewish community is extraordinary intelligent I think. I am not going to discuss on scientific backgrounds of Iranian universities but it seems that you do not have a realistic perspective of it. There was not any removal of information about nuclear activities because those material consist 80% of the current article. The names of your mentioned companies are still available in research section of the current article and other related articles in Wikipedia. The most change was removal of your claims for IHU to be a high-rank technical university, a public university that belongs to MSRT and has cooperation with other universities, and your trials to deny its real owner and military structure. The final point is that IHU is not a university. It should be considered as a garrison. I know it is painful for you as I guess you are graduated from IHU but we should accept facts. Faith2000 (talk) 07:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: I just need to make a few correction on your text:

**grammatical mistakes**
mistake	correction
to discuss on scientific backgrounds...	to discuss scientific backgrounds... (without preposition)
a realistic perspective of it	a realistic perspective on it (better)
The names of your mentioned companies are still...	The companies you mentioned are still..
has cooperation with	is in cooperation with (better)
be considered as	be considered to be (better)
you are graduated from...	you graduated from.../you will graduate from..

I did not have any time to correct any common grammatical mistakes in wiki page of IHU. Most paragraphs were copied and pasted from other websites without making any revision. It is not important to me. --Facecite12656 (talk) 12:50, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: Hehe! It's a childish behavior to seek for the grammatical mistakes in an informal text that I wrote here for your personal care. Your so-called corrections are not correct and includes many problems. You are a great liar that tried to fool people by saying that the Imam Hossein "garrison" is a prestigious and technical university so it is not important for me to spend time for proofreading what I write to you. I just type your response without caring for grammatical issues, and publish it to prevent you from fooling other people! If anyone looks at your few sentences (even your last response), he/she will find tens of grammatical mistakes and even mistyping! I do not care your childish behavior as I can feel how painful it is for you to deal with the fact that your beloved organization that issued your educational certificate is not a university but a garrison. You tried so much to fool other people and universities and obtain some reputation for your certificate but now, anyone knows your secret! Faith2000 (talk) 19:13, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response: I have never gone to this university. I have never fooled other people into believing a falsehood. I added some paragraphs from literature, some books, newspapers, and well-known websites such as iranwatch.org and csis.org. I have never given a citation from facebook and youtube. You can argue with other users about other issues. --Facecite12656 (talk) 19:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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