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Nomination of List of preprint repositories for deletion

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ElKevbo (talk) 20:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Writing article

Hello my friend , I wrote an article about the biological nuclear effect and the article was not published about 2 days and I respected all rules . I am hopping to know what is the probleme? And thank you . عبد القادر شكيب (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

help?

I'm not sure if you can help me with this or not, but lately I have run into many references wherein the main book edited by X is available at doi 10.xxxx but I am citing an author who wrote a chapter in that work. For urls, it's easy as you have url and chapter-url to cite the whole work and separately cite the chapter. But with doi there is no chapter-doi. What's the easiest way to deal with this? Thanks if you can help and don't worry if you are too busy. I appreciate your technical skills. SusunW (talk) 14:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@SusunW:, without an example, it's a bit hard to be specific. Personally, I'd just do <ref>{{cite book |doi=... }}</ref> (or similar) and have Citation bot expand things via the Wikipedia:Citation expander. You might have to add editors and publishers manually, but usually it works pretty well. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

For example, {{cite book |doi=10.1017/9781108682602.002}} gives

• "International Status, Imperial Form: Nauru and the Histories of International Law". International Status in the Shadow of Empire. 2020. pp. 9–44. doi:10.1017/9781108682602.002. ISBN 9781108682602.

once expanded. You can then add the missing information (in this case, author, editor, publisher, possibly location, but I don't like to include location since it's useless information) manually to have

• Storr, Cait (2020). "International Status, Imperial Form: Nauru and the Histories of International Law". In Storr, Cait (ed.). International Status in the Shadow of Empire. Cambridge University Press. pp. 9–44. doi:10.1017/9781108682602.002. ISBN 9781108682602.

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay, so if I understand correctly, I should not input the doi for the entire book, but rather just the chapter doi. (Next time — because I am sure I will need your help again — I'll pull an example, but yes, Storr is one of them, I've recently encountered). Thank you so much. SusunW (talk) 19:50, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@SusunW: yes, if they're available chapter DOIs do work with that method. It's usually incomplete information, sadly, but it still will cover a lot of it. Sometimes editors are added. Sometimes authors are added. Sometimes both. Publisher is rare, but I've seen it happen. Basically it works the same as general book DOIs, which also often need extra TLC to include everything about the book. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:14, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

I have learned that in the book template in this editing window, if you type in the isbn and hit the magnifying glass, it will fill in most everything. I usually do that and then just add authors, chapters, editors and links. As you say, easier than manually inputting everything, but still requires proofing the info. I didn't know about the tool you gave above and it is helpful, especially if the work doesn't have an isbn. SusunW (talk) 20:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@SusunW: yes, the RefToolbar is also a good way to do this, but doesn't work with DOI and books very well. The RefToolbar will generally be quicker, the bot can sometimes take a few minutes to react. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:01, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Book-prod

Template:Book-prod has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Trialpears (talk) 19:32, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Questions about citations

On Function of several complex variables I citationed Complex Analytic and Differential Geometry and I would like to explain that this is OpenContent book, is this enough to explain in the External links section? Currently used on 22th and 23th of Inline citations and I haven't explained this.thanks!--SilverMatsu (talk) 06:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@SilverMatsu: The question is why do you want to explain this? For purposes of WP:V, this is not required, and in fact rather distracting. In a WP:FR or WP:EL section, it might belong, if it's genuinely a good resource for the topic. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:12, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. I thought it was necessary to explain that this reference is open source because the URL to the reference was only the pdf download URL, but if not, I don't have to worry. I got this reference in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/Archive/2021/Jan#About the name of X-Pseudoconvex. Regarding the necessity of reference, there is a notation fluctuation in the name of X-Pseudoconvex. For example, planetmath called "Levi strongly pseudoconvex" a "strongly pseudoconvex". As Diederich & Fornaess reference, it seems too weak to show that a arbitrarily chosen complex manifold is a Stein (strictly pseudoconvex) manifold. I've seen someone call it "Lelong strongly pseudoconvex", but I haven't found a any suitable reference. I might call "(Strictly) Strongly pseudoconvex" more than "Strongly (Strictly) pseudoconvex" for clarity, but the current meaning of "strongly pseudoconvex" seems to be the meaning indicated by the current reference ...--SilverMatsu (talk) 01:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to contact you often, but I also found MIT lecture notes. I would appreciate it if you could check it at this opportunity. See Function of several complex variables#External links.--SilverMatsu (talk) 15:24, 26 June 2021 (UTC)