User talk:Howicus

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Pepe the Frog[edit]

This isn't really the sort of article that makes me proud of Wikipedia. However, it seems to have been attacked by sock or meatpuppets (hence why I've semi-protected it to keep the unsourced content down) and I fear if it goes to AfD, they'll take over that as well. So I thought I'd add a few sources and leave it be. I don't mind the article going to AfD but I've got a sinking feeling there will be drama, the article will be deleted, and created a few times (and deleted via G4) before being salted. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:59, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I fully expect a puppet swarm (which sounds like something one might have in a nightmare), but it looks to me like just another meme that got written about for around a week, then died. So I took it to AfD anyway. We'll see how it turns out. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 16:03, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Adoption School progress update[edit]

Hey there Master User:Howicus,

I have completed the speedy deletion section, and a question for the section below it. Sorry i haven't been on for awhile, final exams at school haha.

Ya Homie, --Luis Santos24 (talk) 17:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC) :-)

Hi Luis Santos24. Would you go back through that section, and say what, if any, specific speedy deletion criteria are met for each example article? You can use the letter/number abbreviations if you like, or write them out. Also, the answer you gave for the question you answered in the Proposed Deletion section was incorrect. Please read the proposed deletion policy and re-answer that question. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 17:49, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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David McGoldrick[edit]

Howie sorry but this best way for me to contact you , my edit to page was not " disruptive " as it is matter of fact just look at ITV player — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michealrockafella (talkcontribs)

Hi Michealrockafella. Wikipedia content needs to be based off of reliable, independent sources such as newspapers or magazines. I believe you that he was seen chewing gum. The question is, did sources like newspapers notice this too, and did they care enough to write about it? Howicus (Did I mess up?) 17:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

sorry for contacting this way but is TV footage not realiable — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michealrockafella (talkcontribs)

Hi again Michealrockafella. First, please put your comments at the bottom of this page, here. Second, is it TV footage of McGoldrick chewing gum? Or footage of people talking about McGoldrick being caught chewing gum? If it's the first, then it's not enough to justify including that content. If it's the second, then it might be worth adding. Could you give me a link to the footage? Howicus (Did I mess up?) 17:27, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough I'll try to upload the footage next few days — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michealrockafella (talkcontribs)

Kris Jenner[edit]

Hi, Thank you for your response on the Kris Jenner entry. A biography of a person whether living or dead should be accuracy. Kris Jenner was married to Bruce Jenner. While any entry to Bruce Jenner in the future will be a redirect to Caitlyn Jenner, which is fine, but this is not the history. Kris Jenner was married to Bruce Jenner from 1991 till 2014. She was not married to Caitlyn Jenner. Caitlyn's identity was established in Vanity Fair article and via Twitter, June 1st. While Caitlyn's change is mentioned subsequently in the wiki entry and adequately, it is incorrect to include in the History or at the very least, superfluous. I am trying to provide an accurate history of Kris Jenner and her history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toga25 (talkcontribs) 18:49, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Toga25 One reason I reverted your edit is because when you removed the named Caitlyn, you also removed the only link to Jenner's page. Also, the issue of what name to use for Jenner in various articles is currently being discussed here. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 18:53, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Howicus Thanks for responding so quickly. I disagree. There is already a link and mention of Caitlyn's Name in Kris Jenner's Sidebar: which links to Jenner's page : Bruce Jenner (now known as Caitlyn Jenner) (m. 1991–2015). There is also further mention of Caitlyn further in the article: In April 1991, one month after her divorce from Kardashian, Jenner married her second husband, former Olympian Bruce Jenner, who later renamed herself Caitlyn. This is an article about Kris Jenner and during her marriage, she was married to Bruce Jenner. It is established that Bruce Jenner later renames herself to Caitlyn in the sidebar and further on in the entry. During her marriage, Kris Jenner was married to Bruce Jenner, which is a small clarification but worth noting? Toga25 (talk) 20:37, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

I see your reasoning, Toga25, and I think I agree with you. One more thing though, in the future please use Edit summaries to explain your edits. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 20:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

List of saints[edit]

Hi, I am a new editor. I was going through the list of saints when I realized the info on St. Olga (whom I am named after) is incorrect. As a starter, I tried to update the date of her canonization but it was rejected by you. I am not sure what I did wrong, but when I went back to check things out, I realized the link was to Olga the Grand Duchess of Russia and not St. Olga the first Russian saint who lived in the 10th century, whose grand son Vladimir converted the Russian people to Orthodoxy. This entry needs to be totally corrected / updated, as it is misleading. Let me know how I can help. GogolTwain — Preceding unsigned comment added by GogolTwain (talkcontribs) 22:59, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you were trying to do now, GogolTwain. I have added Olga of Kiev to the list with this edit, but as I don't know much about that topic, I invite you to check my entry and correct it. Note that I left Olga of Russia in the list, because apparently she is a saint too. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 23:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

The Storms[edit]

User:Highadventurer96 has readded the book "The Storms" to the Everest (2015 film) page, and I'm not sure if I should remove it. I did once, before you did, and we had an exchange on my talk page. You're a far, far more experienced editor than I, so I'd rather defer to you in this case - personally, I feel that the whole page needs a rewrite, and only books used directly as source material should stay, but Highadventure96 does make the point that the events at Base Camp will be covered in the film.

I'm also concerned that they seem to be a single-purpose account, and with a name like that (and an agenda of promoting a single book), I'm worried about COI. What do you think? NekoKatsun (talk) 00:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Well, "The Storms" is about the 1996 Mount Everest disaster, and so is the movie. But, "The Storms" is not directly relevant to the film, only indirectly because they cover the same events. So, it should not be mentioned on the film page. Also, yeah, this is most definitely a single-purpose account for promoting this book. I've reverted again and warned Highadventurer96. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 00:22, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Preference to the Storms[edit]

I was on Everest in 96 but I am neither the author of The Storms or do I have any connection. If you take the trouble to read it you will find it contains new information focussed on events within Rob Hall's expedition which is fundamental to an understanding of the film.

Other than Into Thin Air the other books quoted in the page have very little relevance to the film.

Grateful if you stop replacing the edit unless you know more than I do about events on Everestbin May 1996. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highadventurer96 (talkcontribs) 08:50, 13 June 2015 (UTC)


Just seen the your discussion about "single purpose account".

Firstly yes I do have a particular interest in mountaineering, and I acknowledge that I do not spend time looking to edit content on other topics - but I will happily do so if I become aware of information which would be useful.

Secondly I am not promoting the book (other than my firm belief that it adds to the background knowledge of those who have an interest - I personally don't care whether The Storms is a successful book or not) but I am identifying to those interested in the film that The Storms (which I hope you have read which would at least make this a more relevant debate) provides sound background information.

In my humble opinion, together with Into Thin Air, it completes the story. It certainly describes what many of the characters in the film were doing at the time of the tragedy from a first hand perspective. Far more than any of the other books listed which don't cover events at Base Camp which is fundamental to the full understanding of the film.

Other than completely disagreeing with your view that I am promoting someone else's book - all I can say to this, is that I am not - I am simply attempting to support source material which gives a greater understanding of the subject of the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highadventurer96 (talkcontribs) 09:27, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Highadventurer96, I see your argument for the book being relevant to the 1996 Mount Everest disaster article, as the book talks about the events of the disaster. But, the book is not *directly* relevant to the film. I don't think it merits inclusion in the film article merely because it covers the same events. Additionally, you need to provide a reliable, independent source to show that the book is significant enough to be included in the articles. A good source could be a newspaper review of the book, for example.
Also, with regards to my calling you a single-purpose account, well, every edit you've made so far has been to add or re-add a mention of that book to an article. There are plenty of cases of new users who are actually here to promote a specific book. Sorry if I offended you by assuming that was your purpose too. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 17:35, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Howicus

Thank you for your response.

I totally agree with your view that I am only concerned with this one debate - mountaineering is my field of expertise and I don't currently have a view about any other issues - does this somehow penalise contributions to Wikepedia?

I do think the full story of the background to the film is relevant (hence my stance on this topic) - I hope you will find the this old and relevant article in the Alpine Journal to be an appropriate reference to support my edit that Mike Trueman's factual background to the film is relevant - see 3rd to last paragraph.

I reiterate that I have no personal interest in "The Storms" - which is in any case a successful publication in the UK and doesn't need my help. I am however uncomfortable with the "policing" of my edit. It seems to be based on some self accreditation to legislate edits irrespective of how much you know about the subject in question.

Please do forgive me if I am wrong and you were on the mountain with me in 1996. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Highadventurer96 (talkcontribs) 18:02, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 June 2015[edit]

Daisy Beaumont[edit]


Regarding your reporting of Daisy Beaumont as a non-notable actress:

I have submitted my initial argument on this page:

Here it is again incase that is the wrong place to contribute to the discussion:

Hi Howicus (apologies if this is the wrong place to discuss this, if so, advise me and I will submit my argument elsewhere). Daisy Beaumont was a regular in the BAFTA winning (also twice BAFTA nominated) Star Stories, as well as in a regular in two series of the hit series 'You, Me & Them', screened regularly on UK Channel UK Gold. She is a regular face on British television, and many of her screen roles can be found at her IMDB page, here: She also has extensive theatre credits, has performed at the National Theatre in London, several times in the West End, and was one of the original cast of the hit Boeing-Boeing (as is mentioned in the wikipedia article for the musical here:

Daisy Beaumont is most definitely a notable actress in the UK.

Sincere apologies if I'm using Wikipedia incorrectly in this discussion, I'm sure that I am, I have no experience using Wikipedia in this way. I merely edited Daisy's D.O.B on her request as it had been input incorrectly by someone else before.


Roxane Vacca Management

Roxanevacca (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:04, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Roxanevacca. The best place to comment is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daisy Beaumont (which I see you've done). Howicus (Did I mess up?) 16:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Daniel O'Keeffe (swimmer)[edit]

You suggested for speedy deletion the page Daniel O'Keeffe (swimmer). I was trying to introduce a disambiguation page to distinguish between the various Daniel O'Keeffes and O'Keefes listed on Wikipedia. Ofloinn121 (talk) 20:26, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I understand what you were doing Ofloinn121, and I agree with you. You just went about it the wrong way. To move a page from one title to another you should follow the instructions at Help:Moving a page (which you might not be able to do if you're not autoconfirmed). Simply copy/pasting isn't the right way to do it as the page's history has to be preserved for attribution reasons. I tagged Daniel O'Keeffe (swimmer) for speedy deletion so that Daniel O'Keeffe can be properly moved there. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 20:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 June 2015[edit]

Somaliland map[edit]

I restored the right one, please dont change if you dont know how Somaliland map looks like, you can google more info. Thank you Dandaawi (talk) 15:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Dandaawi, if you want to change the map please bring the issue up at the talk page, Talk:Somaliland, instead of simply re-adding reverted content. Also, you changed the article text to say that Somaliland is recognized, but the sources say that it is not. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 17:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi howicus yes you right the state is not recognised, i gues i changed that by mistake while was restoring the original map sorry about that. How ever this map is absulutely misleading its completely made up defenitely by pro Somalians. You can search somaliland territory i bet you will find nothing like this in any where else other than wikipedia. I have to restore the right map. Please come forward if you have an issue with the map itself. Cheers. Dandaawi (talk) 18:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)


It's our responsibility to make wikipedia reflecting correct content. For this reason I am trying to add very vitial information on Yoga. Without this it is not reflecting what Yoga exactly is. Just check on internet about Yoga then you may come to know. So my question is why it's removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swamikrishananda (talkcontribs) 17:18, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Swamikrishananda. The sources you used did not seem to meet Wikipedia's guidelines for reliable sources, so I reverted your changes. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 17:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Nepalese royal massacre[edit]

yeah you cannot say the massacre is done by prince dipendra because this case is unsolved and still mystic. so would like to edit this. those youtube documentary is done by indian and you should know about indian and nepalese internal quarrel. you should better edit it cause you do not have any proof that the murders are done by prince dipendra. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raakss1 (talkcontribs) 01:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Fachhochschule potsdam[edit]

Smart move (pun) to overrule my perfectly legitimate CSD tag, but as an article without an author, who do you suppose is going to locate it and translate it? We deprecated he incubater some time ago. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:01, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Kudpung. I moved the page at the request of the page creator on IRC, who has filed a request for translation. Now, though, I see that method of translation is depreciated. OlEnglish and I are working with the article creator on IRC to figure out what to do. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 14:13, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
The instructions are at Wikipedia:Translation#Requesting a translation from a foreign language to English. However, as this is a a CSD-A2 case, the way to proceed is to do a very short stub in English and then add the template that suggests that the article can be expanded from its parent article on the other Wiki. Of course, there is no guarantee that someone would want to pick it up, but it would get some exposure where a Draft is doomed to the dungeon. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:22, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
After talking with the page creator on IRC, it looks like they're going to create the stub and tag it for expansion. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 14:42, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Be wasting their time. See: Fachhochschule Potsdam in English. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:29, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Oh, well, thank you very much! :) Howicus (Did I mess up?) 17:32, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Co-op Pilot Results & Mentoring[edit]

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Looking to be adopted[edit]


I'm looking to be adopted to help with my first article. It's been rejected 4 times, each for different reasons.

I live in WI and am the Executive Assistant for the company I am trying to get publishes.

Thank you, PattiMoly99 (talk) 14:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello PattiMoly99. Unfortunately the next couple of weeks are going to be quite busy for me in real life, and I don't anticipate having a whole lot of time to spend on Wikipedia. I'd suggest contacting one of the other users listed at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area/Adopters. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 23:55, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 June 2015[edit]


I dont see the Albanian version of greek cities on wikipedia so why should there be a greek version of Albanian cities here?? Thats just unnecessary and irrelevant! ÇobaniNgaEr (talk) 02:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi ÇobaniNgaEr My objection is not about the specific content being removed. The problem I have with your edits is that you are removing the pronunciation using misleading edit summaries such as "fixed typo". Howicus (Did I mess up?) 02:34, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Sorry about that but I think it's inappropriate to add a second version of a city's name in a foreign language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ÇobaniNgaEr (talkcontribs) 02:53, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey boss, long time no see[edit]

I'm back, since we last talked User:Howicus, i've become a novice editor, with over 571 edits, and i just made my 8th Article! I also did 50 Hours of volunteering aboard SS American Victory, so sorry i haven't been on much lately.

Good to talk to you again! Ya Boi, --Luis Santos24 (talk) 23:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)