User talk:Humulator

Great job[edit]

Thank you for adding more transit coverage to roads articles. Sadly most of them have been written in a way that excludes non-automobile forms of transport, which I consider a form of systematic bias (intentional or not). Julius177 (talk) 12:22, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is intentional, as you see on my user-page i really am interested in transit, and thats basically everything i do in my freetime.Edit after 2 minutes:oh your saying non-road vehicles not non-buses. The things I edit rarely have a train, chances are I missed a station/train or 2 while editing but I do know a lot about stations. Humulator (talk) 13:30, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overlinking[edit]

Hi there. I noticed this edit, but I encourage you to read Wp:OVERLINK. You added multiple links to that article that were already linked and don't need to be linked again. We should only link to an article once if possible in an article. Canterbury Tail talk 19:10, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, sorry about that, ill reedit it to not include too many duplicates. Humulator (talk) 19:11, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah[edit]

It's unfortunate. Wikipedia didn't used to be this way, and in particular lots of articles on roads and streets have been purged. Notability requirements are very inconsistent from area to area. Jane Street is far more significant subjectively than a lot of bio articles on obscure retired sports players, in my opinion, yet there are thousands and thousands of the latter. It's one reason I rarely create new articles and when I do, I tend to stay away from roads altogether. A lot of it goes back to the debates around inclusionism vs deletionism, and unfortunately as edit volumes have become clustered around a handful of longtime users who are very familiar with the platform, the requirements become alienating to new editors. Certainly it's not the wild west of even 10 years ago. Unfortunately I think the tendency today is toward mass deletion of content, trying to purge the wiki of a lot of older articles, as a form of overcompensation similar to the trend today towards deleting poorly sourced content or articles rather than just giving them citation needed labels. Some people want Wikipedia to be Encyclopedia Britannica with unpaid editors, which is unrealistic and just encourages it to be a platform edited by a smaller number of people. It also does nothing to deter the epidemic of paid non-neutral POV edits (look at articles on some companies and individuals for example) or the bias in any politics article, where you can have highly motivated groups of people coordinate their edits off-site and create a false consensus.

I'm not sure what the solutions are. Not many people seem to acknowledge the issues and people who struggle with them tend to just quit. Personally I used to dispute AfDs where it was clear the people motivating them were against entire types of article and wanted to build "consensus" to have them all deleted, for genuinely unclear reasons. However the structure of the site and eg inactivity of certain WikiProjects leads to the people who think that kind of content should be on the site being uncoordinated, whereas a committed deletionist can just browse the list of AfDs and cast votes to delete every time. It's disturbing and confusing to me how many people seem committed to deleting content seemingly on principle. I don't know what they want Wikipedia to be but it isn't in line with the things I admire most about it. Many people seem caught up in the bureaucratic mindset, especially if they primarily participate in bureaucratic functions and seemingly rarely actually add content to the encyclopedia.

My advice is to keep editing, don't get caught up in deletion battles, and try to find areas that aren't "crowded" where a lot of content can easily be added. For example, I have a personal interest in archaeology, which in Ontario is very easy content to add, as much of it easily clears notability requirements because of the body of work mainly being academic journal articles. This kind of content is more "bulletproof". But that's just me following my personal interest and obviously I can't recommend edits on things you might have no interest in.

Good luck. I hope you keep editing. Julius177 (talk) 14:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022[edit]

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already do, assuming I use source. I used visual this time. In this case, after I submitted, I compared mine with the one before. The source looked like I added the Canada one when I didn't intend. so I removed it. Then I saw it was already there, so I reverted my edit. Humulator (talk) 02:58, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jane Street (November 14)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Bearcat was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This isn't adequate sourcing to establish the notability of a city street. Nine of the thirteen footnotes are content self-published by the city (photos, TTC maps, etc.), another is somebody's personal blog, and another is a community real estate directory, which means that 11 of the 13 footnotes here are not notability-assisting sources at all. And of the just two footnotes that come from real GNG-worthy media, one is about a neighbourhood that the street happens to run through and the other is about a transit line that was proposed to run on the street -- which means that while they both verify that the street exists, neither of them are about the street in any non-trivial sense, which means they don't represent enough media coverage to secure the notability of an article all by themselves if none of the rest of the sourcing is any good.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Bearcat (talk) 18:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Concern regarding Draft:Jane Street[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:03, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Jane Street[edit]

Hello, Humulator. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Jane Street".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:20, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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