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You have 204 coins!
[edit]Dear customer. Our bank applied Rule 3, and now you have 204 coins in your account. Bank of Wikipedia 06:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You gave 33.33 coins to newby account JarlaxleArtemis
[edit]This is because of Rule 3. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 06:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You gave 23.81 coins to newbie account User:Wragge
[edit]This is because of Rule 3. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 06:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Lets discuss rule 3, and propose another rule
[edit]You said: "Unless you're putting this "Rule 3" up for a vote then its your bank with your rules. If this is not the case then a new rule should be proposed and voted upon by the account holders." . Lets discuss the replacement of the rule 3 in the rules's dicussion area , and vote for it. Bank of Wikipedia 06:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This is because of Rule 3.1. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 08:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You gave 13.88 coins to newbie account User:Hall_Monitor
[edit]This is because of Rule 3.1. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. In case you think you are giving a lot fo money to newbies, you may ask the amount given to newbies to be diminish (propose another A value in Rule 3.3). In case you think this newbie is a sockpuppet then, according to Rule 3.1, you have the power judge (together with the rest bank accounts) and expell him/her/it from the bank.
Please inform the bank in case you dont want to receive furhter messages from the bank concerning newbies arrival and payement.
Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 05:52, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You gave 11.11 coins to newbie account User:Sockenpuppe
[edit]This is because of Rule 3.1. In case you dont like this rule, please express your opinion about it. In case you think you are giving a lot fo money to newbies, you may ask the amount given to newbies to diminish (propose another A value in Rule 3.3). In case you think this newbie is a sockpuppet of an older account holder then, according to Rule 3.1, you have the power to judge (together with the rest bank accounts) and expell him/her/it from the bank.
Please inform the bank in case you dont want to receive furhter messages from the bank concerning newbies arrival and payment.
Yours truly. Bank of Wikipedia 06:47, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Messages from the Bank of Wikipedia
[edit]Due to the recent ban, my frontpage has been moved to User:Bank_of_Wikipedia/Accounts
[edit]Remember, I can always prove that I am the original "Bank of Wikipedia". Ask the admins to unban the account, and I will confirm my claim.BoW Bank 13:14, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Re:WP:NAC Update
[edit]I've been busy of late, but it is on my todo list. I'll notify you when it is complete. -- AllyUnion (talk) 04:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up about the VfD not displaying as expected on the 2 June page. What a goofy error...it shows up in the history. In any case, I was able to bring it back to life on the 3 June page. Thanks again.Tobycat 03:52, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
User talk:68.10.35.153
[edit]User talk:68.10.35.153 has been busy indeed. I think you're right to suspect that he has edited before. Cheers, -Willmcw 20:30, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
Diamond Arts Sock Puppets
[edit]Oh, that gave me a laugh. Good puppets at least TRY to have different writing styles... ;P --Etacar11 02:39, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I gave up
[edit]Hope your happy hydnjo.me and my friends were just trying to vote,but no you and etacar11 called them sock puppets so now none of our votes count.And im a boy not a girl,thanks alot.Namela 8:47 jun 5 2005
- Let's hope it is true that he has finally given up... He has been saying the same for 3 days now, yet he insists on blanking user talk pages, whinning, and being a general pain in the ass... Sarg 10:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
RfC
[edit]Well, I think this is pretty obvious: an abusing use of sockpuppets. You have been around more time than me. Would you recommend a RfC? Sarg 14:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Ok! In any case, I've been storing a list of all his sockpuppet accounts. Who knows, he might decide he wants some real vandalism. Sarg 14:29, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
FYI about bank
[edit]"taxing your patience" is a PUN on "tax". Only a pun. Nothin more. 4.250.201.219 20:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for getting this one off the dime (finally). I just didn't know how it should be done. hydnjo talk 15:50, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Sure, I'm glad to help. I learned of this dispute via the request for comment, but I ended up becoming as passionately involved as many of the original parties. I'm glad that it (hopefully) has concluded. Now we just have to wait for an admin to move the article back to Gasoline. I can understand why some might be reluctant to do so, lest they invoke the wrath of the Petrol faction. (Of course, that applies to most situations of this nature.) Ideally, someone from the UK or another British English country will do the honors...er, I mean honours. —Lifeisunfair 18:37, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- To see deja vu all over again take a look at Yoghurt. Yoghurts my eyes but maybe that's just me. Kind of the same thing happened there. Some user moved Yogurt to Yoghurt and nobody noticed for a while (about a month). And then when a user tried to move it back all hell broke loose. The difference being that not as much attention was paid to the vote as was in the Gasoline/Petrol debate and of course the organized (or is it organised) side won out, so it remains Yoghurt. I just don't like the stealthy way that it is being done.
CheersI mean regards of course, ;-) hydnjo talk 21:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- To see deja vu all over again take a look at Yoghurt. Yoghurts my eyes but maybe that's just me. Kind of the same thing happened there. Some user moved Yogurt to Yoghurt and nobody noticed for a while (about a month). And then when a user tried to move it back all hell broke loose. The difference being that not as much attention was paid to the vote as was in the Gasoline/Petrol debate and of course the organized (or is it organised) side won out, so it remains Yoghurt. I just don't like the stealthy way that it is being done.
- Yeah, I've been trying not to involve myself in the great Yogurt/Yoghurt debate, but my curiosity finally drew me in. It isn't quite the same as the Gasoline/Petrol situation, but it's very similar. See my assessment below. —Lifeisunfair 04:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- My sincere congratulations. While some (including me) were becoming silly and frivolous, you held fast and especially held your (our) ground in the face of some pounding criticism. I'm impressed with your integrity and regard for this project. You have, by your example, shown more than you imagine. Thanks, hydnjo talk 02:14, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Your praise means more to me than I can possibly express. It feels wonderful to know that someone appreciates my efforts and cares enough to convey such warm sentiments. Thank you! —Lifeisunfair 04:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Well, you certainly took poor Ed behind the woodshed today. Your point by point rebuttal of his comments were ... well ... on point. I found myself feeling however, that you had him on the ropes long enough. On another topic, your editing skills and your "street smarts" here seem to belie your time on board. I really don't care on way or the other as to whether you are a reincarnation or not, I'm just happy to see someone being as constructive as you have been. And, if you're not a reincarnation then you're one hell of a fast study! ;-) hydnjo talk 19:15, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've never been able to allow standing arguments to remain uncontested. I don't need to have the last word, but I can't resist countering substantive (or even seemingly substantive) retorts.
- Regarding the latter topic, this is my first and only Wikipedia identity. I have, however, contributed to various Internet communities (and occasionally dabbled in webmastery) since late 1996. And of course, before diving in, I attempted to learn as much about the Wikipedia editing process as possible (via observation). I still ended up making some silly mistakes in the beginning (such as "moving" an article by copying and pasting it), but I haven't done too much damage. :-) —Lifeisunfair 20:14, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, but I wouldn't feel comfortable removing it without some sort of mandate. —Lifeisunfair 15:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The following Q & A is from WP:HD:
- How does an article listed on these pages (specifically: was Petrol (Gasoline) and is now Gasoline) ultimately get de-listed? hydnjo talk 20:39, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If there is no doubt at all that the dispute is over, you can just remove it. It is helpful when people do this, as otherwise RFC becomes very congested. You should list it at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Article content disputes archive. Cheers, smoddy 20:45, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Go for it! You deserve the satisfaction. ;-) hydnjo talk 22:45, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I can't honestly say that "there is no doubt at all that the dispute is over," so I think that we should leave the RfC in place for the time being. The page move has transpired, however, so I will remove that request. —Lifeisunfair 02:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- How about pulling Uncle Ed's gasoline (petrol) and petrol (gasoline) listing from WP:RFC. It adds nothing but a little more confusion where none is needed. hydnjo talk 18:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Done. :-) —Lifeisunfair 18:19, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Gasoline message to Lifeisunfair
[edit]When does it (if ever) end? WTF is wrong here. Does the agenda of the few dissenters require a lifetime of keystrokes to keep them (the dissenters) under control or will they (the dissenters) kind of die out after a while. While I continue to be impressed by you're patience in this matter, I'm also confident that you could be contributing in other more constructive ways. If I can be of any help here (short of kneecapping of course) please let me know, my patience is at a lower threshold than yours. However, I'm also committed to this project first and the community second so long as it supports the first objective. There are those, who in this matter don't seem to care about anything but supporting a pre-scripted agenda, no matter the merits. In fact they just recently show up saying Hey, I didn't know 'bout this so lets have a do-over. Clearly this is an orchestrated attempt to corrupt the process under which they (the dissenters) don't approve of the result. Cheers, hydnjo talk 03:34, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I wholeheartedly agree with all of the above, and I don't intend to continue investing time and effort in this discussion ad infinitum. There are some other articles that I'd like to work on, and I also have plenty of real-life matters to address. Hopefully, we're witnessing the debate's death throes. —Lifeisunfair 03:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Indeed, as you noted previously, I'm being optimistic (and perhaps unrealistic). If this nonsense continues beyond the immediate future, I'll try to pull myself away. (Again, that might be unrealistic, given my apparent gluttony for punishment.) —Lifeisunfair 04:43, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
After you review the discussion at Talk:Yoghurt, what is your gut feel. I'm hard pressed to discern a strong preference (except along the usual party lines) as to which is the more appropriate Pagename. Sorry to press you into service again but what do you think? We may not be as adept as you at fixing things but we'll give it a go if you if you think this article is misnamed. Thanks in advance, hydnjo talk 03:37, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Again, your words are too kind. Indeed, I do believe that the article is misnamed. Yogurt was the original title, and appears to be the far more common spelling. Even in the UK, it seems to be catching on.
- I will say, however, that the move to Yoghurt was not entirely without merit, given the Turkish etymology.
- On the other hand, it's obvious that the vote was unfairly stacked by members of the UK Wikipedians' Notice Board, who blindly supported Yoghurt because they were rallied to action on the basis of national loyalty.
- If a new vote begins, you can rest assured that I'll make my opinion known on the Yoghurt talk page. For now, it appears that the formal debate has ended, and I wouldn't feel comfortable stirring things up (no pun intended). —Lifeisunfair 04:51, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yog(h)urt Cheese
[edit]There is no need, and no reason, to 'explain' a link, or do anything there, at all. Please stop modifying it. --Kiand 22:58, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not going to break the 3RR here, but there is -absolutely no need- to 'explain' the spelling there. Please stop throwing fuel onto the fire over the spelling. --Kiand 23:05, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Care for a border?
[edit]==[[User:Teknic|Your Front Door]]== Very nice. I wish I knew how to do that.. ;-) hydnjo talk 01:18, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for the compliment :) Borders are real easy to add to any page; it just takes a little HTML. I'll add a border to this page for you, but if you prefer not to have it you can remove it by deleting the four "div" lines I added to the top of this page. I picked a some colors for you that I thought were nice, but if you want to change them look for the seven #CC6699's and the one #CCFFFF. The #CC6699 is the border color and #CCFFFF is the page color. There is a list of codes you can use at Web colors or even more at this website. If you need some help or just want me to put everything back the way it was just leave a note on my talk page. —TeknicT-M-C 09:49, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'm just warning you that the HTML code is still standing at the top, in case you didn't notice :) Sarg 18:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah I know. Teknic kindly supplied the code after I remarked on his Userpage look. I disabled it (for now) because I found it to be a bit distracting. I didn't want to delete it because I want to play with it a bit. But you're right, it does look a little odd just hanging up there so I'm going to move to my sandbox to do the experimenting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cheers, hydnjo talk 19:36, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've copied your HTML border markup to my sandbox (for fooling around purposes). Also, I've relocated it on my Talkpage to enclose your edit. Question: Can you show me what needs to be done so that the border doesn't extend down into the next subject? Thanks again, hydnjo talk 19:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I'll make the border end at this section by closing all four "div" tags with </div></div></div></div>. You can also try using just the "outset" and "inset" div's for a simpler border without the two "groove" div's, or play around with the "padding" and "border" widths to change the size. Have fun. —TeknicT-M-C 21:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Concert for George
[edit]Yes, I did some research, though I would have loved going to the concert (I was overseas at the time, so I wouldn't have gotten the chance anyway). I've only listened to the album. I'm glad to have helped! :-) ~~Shiri — Talk~~ 19:47, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
(Note to Brian Kendig about Disney's Contemporary Resort)
[edit]Hello from Heidi & Joe. We noticed that we share an interest in WDW and Mac stuff. We were married there and our first computer is a 17" iMac. Anyway the article about the Contemporary is missing an essential image which would show it's iconic A-frame architecture complete with an arriving monorail train. All the images I could find are from advertisements and probably copyright protected. Anything you might find showing the end-view (with monorail) would help flesh out the concept . Thanks. hydnjo talk 21:18, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- And, "... living at Walt Disney World..." boy is Heidi ever jealous about that! hydnjo talk 21:49, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Contemporary Resort photo
[edit]That's a terrific idea! I'll go take such a photo for Wikipedia. - - Brian Kendig 03:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- We'll always luv ya for doing that, We've been bothered by the lack of a good picture for some time. Heidi's health has kept us away for a couple of years from a place that we frequented once or twice a year since 1987. Anyways, as the Contemporary is where we were married (1992-before the pavilion), and where we always stayed (after that first time in '87, she wouldn't even consider staying anywhere else). Anyway, we noticed that the pics on the article didn't show the iconic A-frame feature. We have our own pics but the're not on digital format (poor old us), so getting them uploaded to Wikipedia would take some doing. I was gonna do it anyway but then happened across you today and thought what the hell, lets see if Brian can do it for us. Heidi is blind so she thinks up all the ideas and I do all the typing (that's why we're hydnjo. You would delight us more than you could imagine if you were to fluff up the Contemporary article in whatever way you can. Heidi isn't completely blind so that if she puts on her glasses and I enlarge the screenshot she'll be able to see your contribution. Thank you, hydnjo talk 04:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If you have any other ideas for good photos, let me know and I'll see what I can get! - Brian Kendig 05:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Excellent pictures that you took today. At least now a reader can see why it's called A-frame architecture! Can't believe you found the "Five Legged Goat" that fast; it took me about three days. The overall look of the article is much more ... well... contemporary. Thanks Brian, wait till Heidi sees this. ;-) hydnjo talk 22:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- And Image:Disneys-contemporary-resort-mickeywatch.jpg doesn't seem to have been taken from a public space. Do you have a room there? Also, the trees on either side have grown so as to conceal that the watch-stem is on the wrong side! ;-) hydnjo talk 23:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I am really glad you like the photos and the article! I've known about the five-legged goat; in fact I just used that recently on a Disney trivia quiz for a friend's bridal shower. The wristwatch photo I took from the monorail (that's why it's cropped so narrow, because the building's window support was in the way); I updated the article to mention that it's not easy to see. Please let me know if you can think of any other photos to take around property for Wikipedia! - Brian Kendig 23:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
please take care when speedying. While this could be speedied for being too short, the link it provided (Mimi Parent) showed it was a valid topic. Please, don't call such articles nonsense in your edit summary. BTW, please use {{db}} in which you can provide a reason for the tagging, which makes admin's lives a lot easier. - Mgm|(talk) 11:31, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
- You are correct. I saw the four word Newpage and rushed to judgment. Had I followed the link or reviewed this user's contributions I wouldn't have been so speedy to speedy. Also, I (almost) always use {{db}} so, double fault on this one. Thanks for fixing it up and for calling it to my attention. hydnjo talk 20:19, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Aw, shucks.
[edit]Thanks for the nice welcome-home. Missed you guys too! I plan on staying clear of the more contentious areas of Wikipedia and to concentrate more on the really fun stuff. Losing my taste for trollslaying as of late...helping SuperDude was a real rush for me. Stay in touch. Love ya! Oh, and as I speak, a cable internet tech is here at work installing new routers that will allow us to stream our audio! Yup, you get to hear my dulcet tones on your very own compooter! I'll let you know when it's up. All the best, Lucky 6.9 00:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'll take a peek at that article on voicetracking tomorrow. Looking at it at a glance, it fails to mention that voicetracking can be done on a local level and with local content. My primary job is that of production manager; the 7-midnight schtick is kind of a bonus. I'll see what I can do with it. Thanks for the reminder. - Lucky 6.9 04:46, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Shucks :-)
[edit]Wow! Thanks for the amazing kudos... I had no idea! I think this is the first couple I've met on Wikipedia... I feel that's amazingly cool :-) - Ta bu shi da yu 02:38, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
RfA for Sn0wflake
[edit]Thank you both very much for supporting my nomination and for the kind - if not a little confusing :) - comment. Cheers! --Sn0wflake 03:51, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Adminship JoJan
[edit]Thanks for your support and the kind words. JoJan 08:13, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Re: Ta bu's RFA
[edit]Thanks! I consider myself lucky to be the one to get to re-nominate him. I remember TBSDY from when I first started at Wikipedia and I've always associated good things with him. (Incidentally, you two may want to consider archiving your talk page). — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:23, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ol' Tabu is a gem. He nominated me as an admin some time back but the vote didn't reach consensus. Bad timing...I was in a bit of a tiff over some rather distateful goings-on here. I voted for him twice before, hey, third time's a charm! Anyone who can take an article about exploding whales and bring it to featured status is a freaking genius! Besides, our two votes are two votes closer to a record nomination, currently standing at 103 for Bishonen, another gem if ever there was one. - Lucky 6.9 05:56, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
No way shall one delete him! He's my son (albeit in fact, it is my son's father (and my father's son)). I enjoy Onefool, it makes me think of the happy times when I'd use pedia as a place for "funning around". Good to see that you're still around. I've taken on a very relaxing task of interwikiing. I claim to myself it helps me learn new languages (but to fair, Im never gonna understand or remember Maltese, Limburgish or Macedonian (one day I'll've mastered Breton and Welsh though - 2 pedias which i have a penchant for). So, in summary: Keep --Expurgator t(c) 11:28, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- No way shall one delete him! He's my son (albeit in fact, it is my son's father (and my father's son)). I enjoy Onefool, it makes me think of the happy times when I'd use pedia as a place for "funning around". Good to see that you're still around. I've taken on a very relaxing task of interwikiing. I claim to myself it helps me learn new languages (but to fair, Im never gonna understand or remember Maltese, Limburgish or Macedonian (one day I'll've mastered Breton and Welsh though - 2 pedias which i have a penchant for). So, in summary:
Keep --Expurgator t(c) 11:28, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Just wanted to make sure (in case you run for Admin or Senator or President or whatever). His talk page is setup so that as each new relative is born their name will change from red to blue. Cheers and all that stuff ;-) hydnjo talk 00:49, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Just for the hell-of-it, start a User:xxxfool to see if it works. Pick any name (in the bunch of course). I'll be watching (of course) to see if it works. ;-) hydnjo talk 01:01, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- No, wait. I want User:Bashfool so I'm gonna try it. hydnjo talk 01:26, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It works! So, now, whenever a family member signs up, they will turn from red to blue and there's plenty of them. ;-) hydnjo talk 02:00, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- So it seems that I'm also User:Bashfool. I suppose that makes me a puppet of sorts although that was not my intention. I just wanted to see if the schema at Onefool works. It does! hydnjo talk 02:36, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Re: archiving
[edit]Good work! You've been pretty active here! I tend to keep my archive pages long, right now about 50 entries, but I prefer to keep my talk page to about twenty or fewer, so that it's not too difficult to navigate (plus, otherwise I sometimes miss if people reply to earlier sections). Of course, it depends on my whims and if any of the discussions are "active". It looks like Ta bu's RFA is going extremely well! — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:03, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
your master parle (speaks)
[edit]Good to hear from you as always. I will try to expurgate the celebrity playlist from wiktionary. I used all my resources to get tbsdy to the top spot. and if he wins then i'll write a page in wp:sign. But to be fair, he has wasted/spent much of our time for the whole hi/bye/welcome back/foriveness affair --Expurgator t(c)
- Yeah, that was expurgator, that was wonderfool. And he had had a few. I even deleted the main page on wiktionary after last nite's rave party. Great party tho! 2 of my sockpuppets are now found out then cos of you, sir, but have fun tracking the other 85....
Promoted
[edit]I will do my best to honour the trust placed on me by by you and by other members of this community. Thank you once more for the encouragement. Best regards. --Sn0wflake 02:51, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)