User talk:Jane YahadInUnum

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Wikipedia as Self-Promotion[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Taivo (talk) 12:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up[edit]

Hi Jane!

Thanks for taking the step of changing your user name. Wikipedia has a multitude of byzantine rules, and I don't envy newcomers who have to deal with quite a lot of them all at once. Anyway, I think we're going in the right direction.

To address your edits, we've had a discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard regarding the reliability and pertinence of the info from the yahad map. The consensus seems to be that this source is reliable, but in most ways still a primary source: it means that it should be used carefully, and with attribution, and that if possible we should better reference facts, especially controversial ones, to scholars who have cited Yahad's work.

Furthermore, I think that the direct insertion of quotes from surviving witnesses in articles about towns is not the most encyclopedic way to go adding info. What matters more here is cold facts and context. I suggest adopting a consistent format for what you add: dates of German occupation and of Aktion(en), number of people killed, then a short summary of the event, without direct quotes (something like "according to witnesses interviewed by Yahad-In Unum, the Jewish inhabitants were shot and buried in a mass grave close to the village"). The reference will be of use to the reader, providing a link if they want to read details/watch the testimonies. Additional demographic data (total and Jewish population before and after the war) would be useful to include, but I don't know about reliable published data at the town level that we could use: Soviet censuses, like all Soviet statistics, can be subject to criticism... For former Polish territories, I think census data would be less susceptible of controversy.

Also, please be very careful checking that the locations investigated by Y-IU are the same ones as the articles you add info to. I noticed that the info you added to Khmelnytskyi, Ukraine was actually about the small village of Khmelnitske, in Dnepropetrovsk Oblast. It's been removed anyway, but I strongly advice you to check other places before going further. For the town of Khmelnytskyi, I was able to find sources (including one from CERESE) and add more accurate information.

Anyway, that's my take on it and I am ready to help you further if you have any questions or encounter any further difficulties editing. Good luck! Susuman77 (talk) 11:22, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]