User talk:JohnfromLondon

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People self-identifying as alcoholics[edit]

Hi, a few such categorizations that you've added have been removed, as the designation must be supported by sourced content within the Wikipedia article. Thank you. 2601:188:1:AEA0:9C72:D001:B02E:25B8 (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's OK, there used to be a category of a similar name and I added articles that were applied to that category. The information detailing it must have been removed since that time. Cheers. JohnfromLondon (talk) 19:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Then it's probably best to double-check the content before adding the category--perhaps someone ceased to self-identify (!?) or the content was removed for WP:BLP reasons. Cheers, 2601:188:1:AEA0:9C72:D001:B02E:25B8 (talk) 19:07, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whether there was a previous category or not, if you place the category in an article without proper sourcing in the article you are violating Wikipedia policy, especially with living people. Wikipedia has strict standards for biographies of living people. As one of several examples: I could not find any evidence in the article that Michael J. Fox self identifies as alcoholic. And you didn't replace a similar category. It appears that you added it without regard to what is sourced in the article. It's OK to remove a category that is unsourced, but if you add a category, the burden to provide a reliable source is on you. Please be more cautious. Sundayclose (talk) 19:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another one: Rodney King. There is a difference between being an alcoholic and self-identifying as an alcoholic. Please stop. Sundayclose (talk) 19:58, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And another one: Melanie Griffith. I am asking you to stop any more editing until you have gone through all of your previous edits and removed the ones that are not properly sourced. Others shouldn't have to clean up your mess. Sundayclose (talk) 20:02, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll also add that this category was previously deleted via CfD and I don't believe that anything has changed since that time in terms of how we handle BLPs (if anything, rules are more stringent.) Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 November 20#Category:People self-identifying as alcoholics Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 20:28, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:People self-identifying as alcoholics[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Category:People self-identifying as alcoholics, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as at articles for deletion. Under the specified criteria, where a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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May 2017[edit]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Noam Chomsky, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 18:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the guideline at WP:CATDEF requires the category to be a defining characteristic of the topic. If multiple sources don't declare the topic as an important member of the category, then the category doesn't belong in the article. In practice, if the article contains nothing about the category, then the category is unsupported and should not be placed. This is why I reverted all of your latest category additions, regarding the Category:Critics of neoconservatism. Each of those articles said nothing about neoconservatism. Binksternet (talk) 19:14, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

UR doin it wrong[edit]

Creating Category:Anti-democracy and then spamming that on a bunch of articles isn't helpful. First, is that category even useful? Second, what sources support those articles being in that category? Generally, if you find yourself doing machine edits like this you're probably wrong. It's just a matter of time before you get reverted, dragged into talk page conversations, and then taken to WP:AN for disruptive editing. Please start looking for consensus before continuing to tilt at windmills. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anti-democracy has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Anti-democracy, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]