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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dedham Middle School (March 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chaotic Enby was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Dedham Middle School and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kkaufman DMS! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Kkaufman DMS. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Dedham Middle School, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Jamiebuba (talk) 18:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am trying to help my students become more familiar with Wikipedia and create a page for their school. They are not allowed to edit so I am taking their work and trying to put the page together. This is my first try at this and would appreciate any advice for getting it published. I am adding to it now so it is more complete. The idea is to have students continue to contribute to it through the years to come.

Any recommendations? Kkaufman DMS (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The proper way to approach this is to continue building the draft you created at Draft:Dedham Middle School and develop it until it meets approval to become an article in the encyclopedia. You should consult Wikipedia:Article creation before bothering to submit it for approval, because there are a number of specific things that are required of an article. (2) Please stop overwriting the currect redirect [1] until the article is deemed ready. (3) You also need to comply with the information given above about conflicts of interest and how they need to be handled. (4) In general, your students should be able to edit the draft, unless certain IP addresses have been barred because of previous abuse. What makes you say they are not allowed to edit? _signed,Willondon (talk) 19:26, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sorry about the removal of the redirect. I will keep things in the draft mode until it is ready. My students aren't allowed to create accounts in school, but they are able to edit without one. So I was referring to the creation of an account more than editing privileges. I wanted to get the page published so I can have them add information, as I wasn't aware I can have them edit the draft. I am also going to check out some of the resources for students. I think I moved quickly here not realizing some of the requirements or strict policies (which I appreciate!). Do you have any other advice for my particular situation? If I work at Dedham Middle School, will it be too difficult to create this page based on conflict of interest? Should I abandon this and find a different topic? Thanks again for your guidance. Ktech201 (talk) 12:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! You could create the page, although, as you have a conflict of interest, you have to use Articles for Creation instead of directly writing it in article space. As you were already doing that, there shouldn't be any issue! Just take care to present the fact neutrally and to not use primary sources too much, and read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide if you want more information! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should I abandon this and find a different topic? That's probably a better plan. Creating or editing articles about yourself or something you have a vested interest in is strongly discouraged. But if you want to continue with the school, you can find guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article advice. A common problem I see with conflicts of interest regarding schools or companies is a tendancy to view the article as "the school's web page on Wikipedia", leading to frustration when it becomes apparant that it is an article in an encyclopedia that will be curated by the entire Wikipedia community according to the principles and guidelines developed over the years. The conflict sometimes makes it hard to distinguish between things of interest to the school (e.g. class start times) and what is suitable for an encyclopedia. Best of luck, and know that you can always ask other editors for help, or consult the "Teahouse" to get a wider range of opinions. Cheers. _signed,Willondon (talk) 14:59, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]