User talk:Lemurs are the best

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July 2020

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. CLCStudent (talk) 12:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges.

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Lemurs are the best (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm new to wikipedia and confused by what happened. How come other people can reverse what I write but I cannot do the same? thanks for your help

Decline reason:

But you didn't reverse what you wrote. When someone else undid your vandalism, you attacked the project again. Yamla (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Lemurs are the best (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

what does "attacked the project" mean? I believe I updated (not vandalised), was reversed and then did the same thing that the person reversing did to me. I don't think they have been blocked as well? How come?

Decline reason:

You committed vandalism, the other user did not (if you weren't sure, you might have paused after the first time). You get a block, the other user gets a thank-you: CLCStudent, thank you. Drmies (talk) 13:03, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Lemurs are the best (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm afraid you are incorrect - I did not commit vandalism. Wikipedia says that "Edit warring is not vandalism and should not be dealt with as such". so please can you unblock me?

Accept reason:

This wasn't vandalism, nor was it disruptive enough to warrant indefinite blocking. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 19:16, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock discussion

To the reviewing admin: [1] grossly violated NPOV but doesn't seem like vandalism. Java Hurricane 14:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From reviewing admin. User is not blocked for vandalism. Blocked for disruptive editing, which "grossly violating NPOV" includes. Which, by the way, has not been addressed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:04, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't even see how it "grossly violates NPOV". It's a more restrictive definition of "whitey" than is usually thought of; at least, I always thought "whitey" was an ethnic slur directed at all whites, not just racist whites or the rest of the characterization this edit put in. How in any way are these two edits worthy of an indefinite block? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 16:54, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Messaged blocking admin as they do not respond to pings. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, it certainly was soapy and changed the content from what the source said. Perhaps if Lemurs are the best could address those edits we can unblock. And indef lite has a certain utility. Indef is not infinite.. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per MaterialScientist-- "Feel free to unblock them at will (perhaps after hearing their explanation). Evaluation of those edits is indeed not straightforward." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for listening and sorry for being bad at wikipedia. "whitey" is a term that I think is only (or mainly) used by people of colour, and i am a person of colour and i would only use that term to describe white people who are racist or part of the white-dominated system which is institutionally racist. I would not use the term just to be hateful to a white person for no reason or if the reason was something other than racism - only if I thought them to be committing an act of racism. I live in England which is predominantly white however people i am friends with are not "whitey" and people i dislike for reasons other than racism are not whitey. i would use this to describe white people in the government (which is institutionally racist) or someone who i witnessed committing racism towards a person of colour. Some white people are oppressed by the white-dominated system (Irish people, Polish people, etc) and they are not whitey. Apologies as I don't know the ethnicity of my fellow editors but it is my opinion that this term can only be defined by those who use it i.e. people of colour. Potentially also oppressed white people but I am not one of those so do not know if they use the term whitey] --Lemurs are the best (talk) 14:33, 16 July 2020 (GMT)
As far as Wikipedia is concerned, the term is as defined by reliable sources, not our personal opinions of who should define it. How anybody, individually, uses the term is not something Wikipedia is interested in. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 14:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
a reliable source is Maruse Heath from the New Black Panther party who has a tattoo that says "kill whitey" however he does not kill, or want to kill every white person he meets. His party upholds the legacy of the Black Panther Party who's aim was to monitor the behaviour of officers of the Oakland Police Department and challenge police brutality in the city. i.e. challenge institutionalised racism. Whitey in this case refers to institutionally racist police in geneeral, not a specific white person. Another reliable source is the song "Whitey on the moon" by Gil Scott-Heron. He sings about the dominating white system rather than a specific white person. Are there any examples of whitey being used in a way that is not a reaction to the experience of people of colour being oppressed by a dominating white system? --Lemurs are the best (talk) 16:09, 16 July 2020 (GMT)
Please read up on reliable sources; the expression has a very important meaning on Wikipedia, and does not include our personal observations and analyses. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 17:11, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]