User talk:M L Gascoine
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Hello, M L Gascoine, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.
I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.
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- Hello Dangerous Panda, thank you for your comments, this is all causing some frustration, yes I do work for The John Lyon School however all I was doing was making additions to the Alumni section of the page. We have many alumni who have passed through the school over the years, not all of which are world famous nor have their own Wikipedia Page, but they were part of our School off of which was proven with the references I included from the first authorized history of the School John Lyon's Dream. I completely understand that this is a neutral site and not a marketing tool to promote businesses, and that is not what was being done in this instance, so I do fail to see why the names had to be removed - perhaps you could clarify?
The School is changing all the time and other edits I have made reflect that, as I understand that one of the desires of Wikipedia is to be as accurate and up to date as possible. It does appear odd that people who have no knowledge of the school are able to make a decision to remove information that is part of the history of the School - again I would seek your clarification. Thank you. (M L Gascoine (talk) 11:01, 5 June 2014 (UTC))
- Sorry on other point was you mention my user name, this is my name not a company or organization, I do not consider it appropriate when working with this to hide behind another name. (M L Gascoine (talk) 11:03, 5 June 2014 (UTC))
- Good Morning, Thank you for the pointers you gave in your message, I have gone through them and realize now the points that have been made and why they have been made by you and other Editors of Wikipedia. There is clearly a lot more to this than I had first gathered, and I would appreciate any assistance out there. (M L Gascoine (talk) 08:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC))
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Please, do not remove the COI-tag. You told the world loud and clear that you are involved with The John Lyon School and its alumni, so it is just as loud and clear that you have a Conflict of Interest. The Banner talk 23:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Good Morning, thank you for your reply, if by having a conflict of interest it means I can put information down that is true and correct from a reliable source then that is fine. There is no need for me to conceal anything regarding my role, my interest is purely that of accuracy of fact concerning the School and its students, staff and Governors.(M L Gascoine (talk) 07:33, 6 June 2014 (UTC))
- It means that you have to be triple careful to make sure that the info that you add is neutral in style and tone and that info is properly sourced. For example, people will be far more prepared to remove red linked or unlinked alumni as deemed not notable. To be true, it is not illegal what you do but it just makes people extra critical. The Banner talk 08:02, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- I understand, thank you, I also see that by referencing an authorized biography of the school from which the names are gathered does not constitute a reliable secondary source based on the Wikipedia guidelines for including people in a list. I appreciate your help here. (M L Gascoine (talk) 08:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC))
- Insofar that you should write the articles about the alumni first before adding them to the list. In that article about a person, the biography of the school acts as a reliable secondary source. In an article about the school, it is a primary source. The Banner talk 08:28, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- I understand, thank you, I also see that by referencing an authorized biography of the school from which the names are gathered does not constitute a reliable secondary source based on the Wikipedia guidelines for including people in a list. I appreciate your help here. (M L Gascoine (talk) 08:12, 6 June 2014 (UTC))
- It means that you have to be triple careful to make sure that the info that you add is neutral in style and tone and that info is properly sourced. For example, people will be far more prepared to remove red linked or unlinked alumni as deemed not notable. To be true, it is not illegal what you do but it just makes people extra critical. The Banner talk 08:02, 6 June 2014 (UTC)